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10-10-2007, 02:46 PM
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Turn options + good river 400 nl
Villain is 23.8/17.3/2.33 regular on the aggressive side. We have some history from this session...
Hand 1: Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BTN: $404.40 SB: $528.05 BB: $402 UTG: $406 MP: $404.30 Hero (CO): $848.20 Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO) <font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $34 Flop: ($102) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG checks, Hero checks Turn: ($102) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80 River: ($262) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $165</font>, UTG calls $165 Results: $592 Pot ($3 Rake) UTG mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$293 NET) Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and WON $589 (+$296 NET) and Hand 2 Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter SB: $410.40 BB: $515.65 UTG: $404 MP: $404 CO: $424.80 Hero (BTN): $1,138.20 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN) UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $14</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $150</font>, Hero calls $102 Flop: ($306) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">MP bets $232</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $464</font>, MP calls $22 and is All-In Turn: ($814) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In) River: ($814) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In) Results: $814 Pot ($3 Rake) MP showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Ace King high) and LOST (-$404 NET) Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $811 (+$407 NET) And the hand.. Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter UTG: $711.25 CO: $411.20 BTN: $764.50 SB: $408 Hero (BB): $1,608.20 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB) <font color="red">UTG raises to $8</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $8, SB folds, Hero calls $4 Flop: ($26) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players) Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $17</font>, Hero calls $17, UTG folds Turn: ($60) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $40</font>, Hero calls $40 River: ($140) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero ... Thoughts on turn and river? Original raiser was fishy like 40/3/0.8 
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#3
10-10-2007, 02:54 PM
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Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
Turn is fine, and I would c/c this river as well I think, although I'd be tempted to c/r.
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#5
10-10-2007, 03:00 PM
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Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
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fold turn, lead/fold river for 110 or c/c it. [/ QUOTE ] folding the turn is kinda nitty imo but which of the two river options do you like more obv i can do either and i know this already [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#6
10-10-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
c/c the turn is fine given pot odds although i dont expect the implied odds of hitting ur outs to be too great and id prob bet/fold the river, unless u think he value bets jacks, queens , kings or better in which id c/c and try to induce bluffs by him representing the ace (he could easily be firing second barrels with turned draws or with just air)
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#8
10-10-2007, 03:03 PM
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Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
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is c/ring the turn a good option in this spot? [/ QUOTE ] i dont mind c/r if u think he will lay down a jack, or maybe queens (although i doubt he has an overpair given pf action). c/r and c/c the turn r very close IMO. Whatever u do, don't fold turn.
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#9
10-10-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
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[ QUOTE ] fold turn, lead/fold river for 110 or c/c it. [/ QUOTE ] wtf? do u even play msnl? ive seen a ton of your comments today and they all make no sense. [/ QUOTE ] yeh, i beat higher games than you play, and I think your advice sucks but hey, I don't insult you.
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#10
10-10-2007, 03:27 PM
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Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
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[ QUOTE ] is c/ring the turn a good option in this spot? [/ QUOTE ] i dont mind c/r if u think he will lay down a jack, or maybe queens (although i doubt he has an overpair given pf action). c/r and c/c the turn r very close IMO. Whatever u do, don't fold turn. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I'm wondering how much you guys are actually c/ring in this spot. I know i have trouble gambing it up here since when he comes back over the top I'm not liking my hand even though i picked up outs. On one side a turn c/r seems like a decent sized gamble considering the pot isn't huge here but on the other side I think it's really hard for him to continue with a one pairish type hand.
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