Turn options + good river 400 nl
 

Villain is 23.8/17.3/2.33 regular on the aggressive side. We have some history from this session...

Hand 1:

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BTN: $404.40
SB: $528.05
BB: $402
UTG: $406
MP: $404.30
Hero (CO): $848.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $34

Flop: ($102) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($102) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80

River: ($262) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $165</font>, UTG calls $165

Results: $592 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$293 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and WON $589 (+$296 NET)

and Hand 2

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $410.40
BB: $515.65
UTG: $404
MP: $404
CO: $424.80
Hero (BTN): $1,138.20

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $14</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $150</font>, Hero calls $102

Flop: ($306) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $232</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $464</font>, MP calls $22 and is All-In

Turn: ($814) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($814) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $814 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Ace King high) and LOST (-$404 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $811 (+$407 NET)

And the hand..

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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UTG: $711.25
CO: $411.20
BTN: $764.50
SB: $408
Hero (BB): $1,608.20

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $8, SB folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($26) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $17</font>, Hero calls $17, UTG folds

Turn: ($60) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $40</font>, Hero calls $40

River: ($140) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ...

Thoughts on turn and river? Original raiser was fishy like 40/3/0.8

Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
 

fold turn, lead/fold river for 110 or c/c it.

Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
 

Turn is fine, and I would c/c this river as well I think, although I'd be tempted to c/r.

Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
 

is c/ring the turn a good option in this spot?

Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
 

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fold turn, lead/fold river for 110 or c/c it.

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folding the turn is kinda nitty imo but which of the two river options do you like more obv i can do either and i know this already [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: Turn options + good river 400 nl
 

c/c the turn is fine given pot odds although i dont expect the implied odds of hitting ur outs to be too great and id prob bet/fold the river, unless u think he value bets jacks, queens , kings or better in which id c/c and try to induce bluffs by him representing the ace (he could easily be firing second barrels with turned draws or with just air)

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fold turn, lead/fold river for 110 or c/c it.

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wtf? do u even play msnl? ive seen a ton of your comments today and they all make no sense.

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is c/ring the turn a good option in this spot?

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i dont mind c/r if u think he will lay down a jack, or maybe queens (although i doubt he has an overpair given pf action). c/r and c/c the turn r very close IMO. Whatever u do, don't fold turn.

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fold turn, lead/fold river for 110 or c/c it.

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wtf? do u even play msnl? ive seen a ton of your comments today and they all make no sense.

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yeh, i beat higher games than you play, and I think your advice sucks but hey, I don't insult you.

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is c/ring the turn a good option in this spot?

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i dont mind c/r if u think he will lay down a jack, or maybe queens (although i doubt he has an overpair given pf action). c/r and c/c the turn r very close IMO. Whatever u do, don't fold turn.

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Yeah I'm wondering how much you guys are actually c/ring in this spot. I know i have trouble gambing it up here since when he comes back over the top I'm not liking my hand even though i picked up outs. On one side a turn c/r seems like a decent sized gamble considering the pot isn't huge here but on the other side I think it's really hard for him to continue with a one pairish type hand.