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Old 09-16-2007, 05:44 AM
CallistoAA CallistoAA is offline
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This may be the wrong forum but i 8 tabled 9000 hands of 25/50c nl today and lost 8 buy ins. It seemed every time i was all in with the nuts at the time i would lose when i probably had 80% + equity is it normal to experience downswings with such a large hands sample like this? I do not think i have ever before experienced such a negative swing, I have lost over a period of 10k hands but not straight so is this normal?
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:15 AM
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Default Re: Maximum Experienced variance?

I have 10k hands at 400nl and am running hotter than the sun at 14.5 ptbbs.

So yes, variance at 10k can be crazy.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:18 AM
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This may be the wrong forum but i 8 tabled 9000 hands of 25/50c nl today and lost 8 buy ins. It seemed every time i was all in with the nuts at the time i would lose when i probably had 80% + equity is it normal to experience downswings with such a large hands sample like this? I do not think i have ever before experienced such a negative swing, I have lost over a period of 10k hands but not straight so is this normal?

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maybe ur a losing player.

maybe its not variance.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: Maximum Experienced variance?

thats like 10 or 12 hours 8 tabling in one day...that may well be a losing proposition even without variance...unless you routinely play that amount of hands and win at a decent PT/BB rate, in which case, why are you asking the question.

FWIW I've had a couple of 10k breakeven stretches (at 100NL) and I've dropped 8 buyins in like 1k hands before, but I've never dropped 8 buyins over 10k hands.

Maybe cut back on the tables hours and see what that does?
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: Maximum Experienced variance?

i had a 5 buyin downswing in 300 hands (1 hour) yesterday.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: Maximum Experienced variance?

Variance is huge. Last month I had 2 -15BI downswings. Ive already had one -16BI this month. If you cant take a pretty hefty short to medium term loss you should not be playing this game. Does this deserve its own thread? There is lots on this if you do a search
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:01 AM
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This may be the wrong forum but i 8 tabled 9000 hands of 25/50c nl today and lost 8 buy ins. It seemed every time i was all in with the nuts at the time i would lose when i probably had 80% + equity is it normal to experience downswings with such a large hands sample like this? I do not think i have ever before experienced such a negative swing, I have lost over a period of 10k hands but not straight so is this normal?

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maybe ur a losing player.

maybe its not variance.

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Def not a losing player, otherwise i would not have any money to downswing with..

I do play a massive amount of hands daily and althoguht some people may not beable to do so i have been for a long time I have never experienced a swing like today brought though.

Update: Played another 1000 hands had a 2 buyin win so seems to be turning around [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:03 AM
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Variance is huge. Last month I had 2 -15BI downswings. Ive already had one -16BI this month. If you cant take a pretty hefty short to medium term loss you should not be playing this game. Does this deserve its own thread? There is lots on this if you do a search

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I can take it, just my biggest NL swing.. Back when i played HU LHE i was used to 200+ BB swings an hour...
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:04 AM
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If you cant take a pretty hefty short to medium term loss you should not be playing this game.

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QFT
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Maximum Experienced variance?

I lost like 10bi in a matter of like 1k hands to certain very bad fish at hollywood. Somehow i experience sick sick sick variance on that site because some of the fish are just soooo bad. basicly the money went in good in like 7 hands or so. And i didnt win a single pot in a couple 100 hand stretch.

I also went on a 12bi streak at 100NL once in like 1400 hands. It depends how loose you play, also how thin you want to vbet against fish.
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