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04-04-2007, 12:51 AM
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For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
Look no further than Dick Cheney's latest speech:
http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnew...xml&coll=2 [ QUOTE ] This action by the House of Representatives is irresponsible and sends exactly the wrong message to our enemy. When members of the Congress speak not of victory but of time limits, deadlines or other arbitrary measures, they're telling the enemy to simply watch the clock and wait us out. It's time the self-appointed strategists on Capitol Hill understood a very simple concept: You cannot win a war if you tell the enemy when you're going to quit. [/ QUOTE ] At least the executive branch still understands that we cannot defeat Islamo-fascism by pulling out of Iraq before the job is done. Honestly, what do the democrats think a dealine for pulling out will accomplish? Look no further than Iran's recent capture of British soldiers for evidence that Islamic extremists have already been emboldened by talk of withdrawal. And if we pull out of Iraq, not only will Iraq collapse into chaos, but Iran will accelerate its nuclear program and become even more of a haven for terrorists. Dick Cheney has the moral clarity to understand this simple logic, and just as importantly, has the courage to follow through with his vision in spite of political pressure. 
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04-04-2007, 01:02 AM
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Re: For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
So you're going to Dick Cheney for the source of moral clarity. Awesome.
[ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do the democrats think a dealine for pulling out will accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do you think staying in Iraq is going to accomplish? Seriously, I want to know. What could happen that you would call victory? I've been asking people that support staying there this for a while now and I've yet to get an answer. What is victory in Iraq? [ QUOTE ] Look no further than Iran's recent capture of British soldiers for evidence that Islamic extremists have already been emboldened by talk of withdrawal. [/ QUOTE ] Oh you can read minds now? How do you know it's not because they're pissed off that we keep going into countries and invade them so that we can set up puppet regimes there? [ QUOTE ] And if we pull out of Iraq, not only will Iraq collapse into chaos [/ QUOTE ] Umm, it's not in chaos now? What can the military do there now that leaving afterwards would see it not go into chaos? It was at least not in chaos before invading, and since the war started Iraqis are getting killed at a faster rate then under Sadaam. [ QUOTE ] but Iran will accelerate its nuclear program and become even more of a haven for terrorists. [/ QUOTE ] What the hell does Iran have to do with Iraq? Your saying we won't be able to stop Iran unless we're engaged in a clusterfuck with a country that before we invaded didn't harbor terrorists? [ QUOTE ] Dick Cheney has the moral clarity to understand this simple logic, [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's simple, I wouldn't call it logical though. [ QUOTE ] and just as importantly, has the courage to follow through with his vision in spite of political pressure. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, he'd rather go with his gut rather then common sense. What a good quality.
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04-04-2007, 09:20 AM
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Re: For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
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So you're going to Dick Cheney for the source of moral clarity. Awesome. [ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do the democrats think a dealine for pulling out will accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do you think staying in Iraq is going to accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] Come on, this is easy. 
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#5
04-04-2007, 11:22 AM
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Re: For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
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[ QUOTE ] So you're going to Dick Cheney for the source of moral clarity. Awesome. [ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do the democrats think a dealine for pulling out will accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do you think staying in Iraq is going to accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] Come on, this is easy. [/ QUOTE ] That's the best you can do? Success in Iraq and the profitability of Halliburton are not mutually exclusive. Why don't you complain about CEOs being overpaid and Walmart making excessive profits while you are at it.
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#6
04-04-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So you're going to Dick Cheney for the source of moral clarity. Awesome. [ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do the democrats think a dealine for pulling out will accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly, what do you think staying in Iraq is going to accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] Come on, this is easy. [/ QUOTE ] That's the best you can do? Success in Iraq and the profitability of Halliburton are not mutually exclusive. [/ QUOTE ] Who said anything about success in Iraq? The question I was answering was about *staying* in Iraq. Try to keep up. And yes, HAL's profits are intimately tied to US military activity. The objection is that *my* money is being appropriated for purposes I object to. Try getting people to voluntarily pay for the war. When you get your bill for your share, let me know how great of an idea it is. [ QUOTE ] Why don't you complain about CEOs being overpaid and Walmart making excessive profits while you are at it. [/ QUOTE ] Strawman of the day.
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04-04-2007, 11:24 AM
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Re: For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
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What could happen that you would call victory? I've been asking people that support staying there this for a while now and I've yet to get an answer. What is victory in Iraq? [/ QUOTE ] Democracy, freedom, peace, prosperity, etc.It's not very complicated.
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#8
04-04-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
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[ QUOTE ] What could happen that you would call victory? I've been asking people that support staying there this for a while now and I've yet to get an answer. What is victory in Iraq? [/ QUOTE ] Democracy, freedom, peace, prosperity, etc.It's not very complicated. [/ QUOTE ] I think that is a fair definition; now let me ask you: on what basis, for what reasons, do you think that can/will actually be achieved?
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#9
04-04-2007, 02:41 PM
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Re: For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What could happen that you would call victory? I've been asking people that support staying there this for a while now and I've yet to get an answer. What is victory in Iraq? [/ QUOTE ] Democracy, freedom, peace, prosperity, etc.It's not very complicated. [/ QUOTE ] I think that is a fair definition; now let me ask you: on what basis, for what reasons, do you think that can/will actually be achieved? [/ QUOTE ] Because if they don't learn to love each other and live in perfect harmony, we'll keep blowing them the [censored] up obviously. Democracy Through Force!
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