27s: villain shoving any 2?

Jshuttlesworth · #1 03-30-2007, 05:07 PM

If villain is on 100% here, calling is +1.3%EV. If he is pushing top 50%, it's -1.4% Break even point is top 71%. What is your sense of the average 27ers push range here? He is not a known 2p2er or multitabler.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1765)
SB (t1630)
Hero (t2180)
UTG (t3885)
MP (t4040)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1630</font>,

Kevin8423 · #2 03-30-2007, 05:10 PM

I would normally be folding this because it is 5 handed so you have a little more time to make raises of your own.. I could be wrong though.

Jshuttlesworth · #3 03-30-2007, 05:12 PM

well that is all true but if random villains are always pushing 100% here than we should call because it is +1.3%, even though we will have more time to make our own moves. this is a discussion about hand ranges.

typically · #4 03-30-2007, 05:22 PM

Can't put a finger on an average player. You gotta have some reads on him at this point.

Jshuttlesworth · #5 03-30-2007, 05:23 PM

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Can't put a finger on an average player. You gotta have some reads on him at this point.

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sorry i fail

typically · #6 03-30-2007, 05:26 PM

I guess in that case I would give him a much tighter range than 100%, more like 40-60%.

Fammy · #7 03-30-2007, 05:32 PM

I look at this from a slightly different stand point. Yes, this is a +EV if he is pushing any 2...BUT...is this the MOST + EV you are going to see? (i.e. after the next hand when you put in the SB, which by the way you may like in and of itself, you will get 3 hands "for free") The odds that you are going to see a better hand on the next 4 needs to be considered here, IMHO. I am folding this one, even IF he is pushing any 2. I hate calling off ~3/4 of my chips in this situation. It may be weak, but I would rather be the raiser with this hand than the caller.

Fammy

Jshuttlesworth · #8 03-30-2007, 05:35 PM

sigh sigh sigh sigh.... where is sippin criss to tell me what to do when i need him...probably shooting a 68 on augusta national and then [censored] a supermodel..... damn DERBs

Jshuttlesworth · #9 03-30-2007, 05:36 PM

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I guess in that case I would give him a much tighter range than 100%, more like 40-60%.

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thank you

Vrange · #10 03-30-2007, 05:49 PM

I fold and then push some of the next hands. A non-regular will often not shove any two. I would say 50-60% or something. Q2o is too weak here.