For those of you who are still unsure about what moral clarity is

[JOHNY CA$H]

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At least the executive branch still understands that we cannot defeat Islamo-fascism by pulling out of Iraq before the job is done.

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You won't defeat Islamo-fascism by staying there, either.

Honestly, you're going to look really silly in 40 years when it is admitted then invasion of Iraq was all about MONIES!! You've been played like a fiddle.

[Case Closed]

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At least the executive branch still understands that we cannot defeat Islamo-fascism by pulling out of Iraq before the job is done.

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You won't defeat Islamo-fascism by staying there, either.

Honestly, you're going to look really silly in 40 years when it is admitted then invasion of Iraq was all about MONIES!! You've been played like a fiddle.

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40 years? We know what this war is about today!
www.iraqforsale.org

[andyfox]

Moral clarity? The man who said things are going well in Iraq the very day the president said our policy was one of slow failure? The man who, years ago, said the insurgency was in its last throes? The man who claimed he never linked Saddam Hussein and 9/11? The man who claimed Hussein's nuclear capacity had been "reconstituted"? The man who constantly questions the patriotism of those who disagree with the administration's Iraq policy?

Cheney should know about the how not to win a war. His administration has been an exemplar of failure.

[latefordinner]

Cheney (1992):

And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq..."

[whiskeytown]

His Moral clairity doesn't stop him from continuing to lie over and over about everything this administration has done and the reasons it manufactured about going to war.

If Dick Cheney is a bastion of moral clairity then I'm the winner of the [censored] WSOP 5 years in a row.

Hussein's Pre-War ties to Al Qaeda discounted by Pentagon Report

"The report's release came on the same day that Vice President Cheney, appearing on Rush Limbaugh's radio program, repeated his allegation that al-Qaeda was operating inside Iraq "before we ever launched" the war, under the direction of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist killed last June."

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speaking of "Dick" - here's some great footage of him lurking in the Bushes as Dubya is giving a speech whining about not getting his funding his own way - pretty funny -

pay no attention to that man in the shrubs -

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/50150/
rb

[kickabuck]

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Cheney (1992):

And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq..."

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This sentiment of Cheney's lends credence to those who believe it likely that this administration believed much of what it told the world regarding Hussein's WMD threat.

[Dane S]

Or perhaps the world changed a bit in the 11 years after he said that? Or perhaps he changed his mind? Or perhaps he was spouting BS in the first place? Seems to have a penchant for it.

[John Kilduff]

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What could happen that you would call victory? I've been asking people that support staying there this for a while now and I've yet to get an answer. What is victory in Iraq?

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Democracy, freedom, peace, prosperity, etc.It's not very complicated.

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I think that is a fair definition; now let me ask you: on what basis, for what reasons, do you think that can/will actually be achieved?

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Mr. Steven Bickford,

Would you try to answer the above question, please? It's really pretty central to this discussion, and merely outlining the goals without assessing the chances for success or describing any reasons why success is likely to occur is only a fraction of the overall picture.

[Misfire]

Victory already happened in Iraq. When they hung that Mission Accomplished banner, that should have been the end. Had this administration not been so cowardly that they felt compelled (in the face of bleeding-heart criticism) to redefine the mission from "overthrowing Saddam Hussein" to "liberating the Iraqi people and spreading democracy" we'd have been out a long time ago and thousands of US soldiers would still be alive.

[latefordinner]

you think "bleeding-hearts" are the reason we are still in Iraq? up is down, black is white, war is peace.