I'm going to do a LAG experiment

[TheBeloved]

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dbitel,

It seems that playing a LAG game has overcome your normal need to make money.

FWIW, I play a pretty decent LAG game when I only 1-table, so I can make a video of it (or you guys can sweat me). Let me know if anyone is interested, I'll do it soon.

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Cool or post HH, so can watch in replayer

[EchoTek]

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dbitel,

It seems that playing a LAG game has overcome your normal need to make money.

FWIW, I play a pretty decent LAG game when I only 1-table, so I can make a video of it (or you guys can sweat me). Let me know if anyone is interested, I'll do it soon.

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That would be good, and I am sure a lot of the other SSNL guys would love to see you in action.

[Dave I]

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What a lot of people disagree with about the idea of showing a few bluffs, is that it will take away your overall ability to run a bluff. This is just a myth. ... As long as you continually pick your spots then you're fine.

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The same could be said by not showing them, and not taking the chance of people trying to pick them off because they think you bluff a lot. When you bluff you do not want a call. Seems obvious but that is exactly what you'll get if you keep showing them. Even if only twice.

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Once people see how strong you are they are either easier to bluff or they give you action.

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What does this mean? Strong as in good player? Or strong as in showing strong hands? If you mean the former, no bad player thinks another player is better than them and showing bluffs will make them try to pick them off more, only good it you never try again. If the latter, this will allow you to bluff without showing previous bluffs anyway.

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Good image? Big +EV.

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This I agree with but I think it can be done without ever showing your cards. Not that I think you should never, ever show. But almost never.

[ajmargarine]

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dbitel,

It seems that playing a LAG game has overcome your normal need to make money.

FWIW, I play a pretty decent LAG game when I only 1-table, so I can make a video of it (or you guys can sweat me). Let me know if anyone is interested, I'll do it soon.

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Getterdone.

And that is a hint at why LAG can be difficult. If you one-table, you can do all kinds of stuff.

[Ness]

Db,

I haven't read the responses, but I would like to remind you of something.

A GOOD lag player (there are plenty of bad ones) must rely heavily on his ability to read other players.

If you are not VERY confident in your hand reading skills, you are going to be in trouble.

Rgrds,

ness

[Dave I]

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By the way, link to a post from HSNL LAG player ...

Showing Bluffs

regards,

dardo

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I'll bet dollars to donuts that most beginners (IE: SSNL) will not be able to do this properly. You need to be a very good hand reader. Also, it won't work nearly as well at SSNL because most players play their cards and nothing else. Maybe at 100NL it will make more sense to try.

I agree with Isura that people want to play LAG for the sake of playing LAG. There is simply not much need for this at these levels unless for fun/amusement. Which I suspect this is. In that case carry on...

[CallYNotRaise06]

db, ive always been a loose player( ive never had a vp$ip under 27), which is why it took me so long to start winning at poker(almost 2 years [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]). I was playing too many hands without enough experience.

when im playing LAGish at(50 and 100nl), my play revolves around position. I try to be super tight when im going to be oop in a hand. But with position, im quite loose. It makes things so much easier. i cant emphasize that enough. Position is key for a lag.(most people say reading hands is key, and i agree with that, but being in position makes reading hands alot easier IMO)

As far as when to float/make plays, do it whenever you really sense pure weakness. if im in position, i will float cbets on suited boards/paired boards agains opponents who i know can fold. i try not to make a ton of plays oop simply because if they dont work, what do i do on the next street? it just puts me in situations where im not good enough to make a +ev move. hopefully after a few thousand hands ill get better in these spots.

As far as hand requirements, hey your a lag, you dont need hand requirements. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] just play the player, go with your reads, and have fun. gl.

[Dan Bitel]

Isura,

I have become a bit obssessed, I'll admit that, but its mainly just out of fustration at the lack of help i've had.

Also, please make the vid, I would love to watch and learn from it.

Ness,

I think my hand reading skills are pretty good

[Dave I]

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dbitel,

It seems that playing a LAG game has overcome your normal need to make money.

FWIW, I play a pretty decent LAG game when I only 1-table, so I can make a video of it (or you guys can sweat me). Let me know if anyone is interested, I'll do it soon.

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What would be even better is a LAG challenge. > 40 VPIP, > 25 PFR, > 2 AF. Any level, Video style. Highest PTBB/100 wins!

I'll donate a buy-in or two to the cause and let my true donk out. Anyone else up for it or dumb idea. Either way I may try it for kicks.

[dardo]

I'm not sure ... people are willing to "donate" their stacks more easily ...

Anyway, I see this just like an evolution. As far as you reach on your skills, you can play more hands, do more things ... etc, etc

So, it doesn't matter if you play SSNL, or HSNL, you just adapt the best to the situation and the players.

regards,

dardo