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Old 10-24-2007, 12:08 PM
Mitke Mitke is offline
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Default Re: Suite Face cards (QJ) OTB, cold call?

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First off, I don't think this is WA/WB. He could have 6 outs against us, and WA/WB doesn't automatically apply whenever we have top pair on the flop against a PFR.

WA/WB is something like having A5s against KK on a A97r board.

Granted, this could be WA/WB, but since the flop is only Q high, I'm less likely to assume WA/WB and just call down. I think our hand is good here more often than not and I want to extract value.

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We are way ahead of JJ-66, AJ-A9, Q9. (Anything I miss?)

Villain has 7-5 outs on the flop with A3-A2, AK, A4s/A5s + BDFD (here either spades, hearts or diamonds), QX hearts. These are I guess all possible and would often bet the flop and we would want to make them pay for their draw.

We are way behind AQ/KQ/QQ/55/44 (and QT on the turn). (Anything I miss?)

We have 5 outs vs. AA/KK.
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Hmm. I guess we are more often ahead here and need to value beton the flop.

I also have to look up the spot in Stox's book he talks about Q and J -high pairs being good more often than A or K high.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:24 PM
TheCount212 TheCount212 is offline
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Default Re: Suite Face cards (QJ) OTB, cold call?

PF fine. Raising is good also.
Flop, raise. You have top pair with a decent kicker and a BDFD. My guess is he checks to you on the turn and folds to your bet.
River, his check is a surrender signal after betting other streets. Bet.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:45 PM
threeducks threeducks is offline
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Default Re: Suite Face cards (QJ) OTB, cold call?

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plz stop including results.

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Dawned on me yesterday that the results is not improtant and I will not include it going forward (available upon request).

Thanks
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