NL 50 - QQ facing massive reraise.

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I was with him at another table and the only hand I saw him raise was aces. I just dont understand what he could have here. Why would he play any hand like that?

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(1) Because he thinks you can't fold
(2) Because he thinks you can't call

I tend to err on the side of #1

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I say (2) for several reasons, the only hand I fear is 22/33/44 as QQ+ is getting RR pf almost always if villain is OOP

villain likely holds AK/AQ and is semi-bluffing the straight draw or a mid pp and using the paired 4 on the board as a scare card(dumb bluff, makes the call even easier)

[kurto]

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I say (2) for several reasons, the only hand I fear is 22/33/44 as QQ+ is getting RR pf almost always if villain is OOP

villain likely holds AK/AQ and is semi-bluffing the straight draw or a mid pp and using the paired 4 on the board as a scare card(dumb bluff, makes the call even easier)

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I don't know... I plays $50 and $25 tables and find most people tend to overbet when they're weak hand turned into a monster. (though it tends to be the loose players who call down light then hit monsters... I suspect they know they have to win some monster pots to make up for their repeated bad calls so they overbet when they hit.)

The problem is, at the microlimits, players err on calling down too lightly as opposed to folding to easily. So, I would think most decent players are going to know that they're more likely to be called too light as opposed to getting someone to fold an overpair.

I have been burned more times by calling the overbet convincing myself its a bluff then the other way around.

[matt85]

What hands will he do this with that you beat?

There you go..

[wslee00]

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What hands will he do this with that you beat?

There you go..

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you make it sound like this is obvious

[n4rf]

This is an easy fold I believe. It's true thata lot of hands beat you and if you think that this player is pretty solid rather than a bozo, we can't necessarily put him on an OP to the board. I've seen that overbet happen WAY too many times and depending on the opponent, it means either massive weakness or massive strength.

Hell, I've pulled the over bet a few times and i has worked a good amount of times when you think Villain will call with an OP (Typical AA vs 77 on a K72 board).

[Logun]

I think his range here is a little wider than peopel think . With the CO in there BB thinks he has odds to call with a lot more SC'ers and PP.

I think his range for this move is A4, 34, 45, 56, AK, AQ, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99, TT, JJ.

Unfortunately I feel that in these situations it takes a much better than average player to make this bluff therefore I would weight his hands heavier on those that beat you.

[hoyasnaxa]

The guy could be a complete moron and doing this with A9. His move doesnt look like the best way to play his hand, no matter what he has, other than total air and just bluffed me.

I think I call and villain shows Ax or JJ-66 a lot here. Hands I am most worried about was A4,34,45,56, and A5.

[gumpzilla]

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The guy could be a complete moron and doing this with A9. His move doesnt look like the best way to play his hand, no matter what he has, other than total air and just bluffed me.

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He's making a pot sized raise. That's not really a very strange move there. How much smaller does he make this raise before you call? And are you going to call a river bet if you go that road anyway?

[kurto]

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I think I call and villain shows Ax or JJ-66 a lot here. Hands I am most worried about was A4,34,45,56, and A5.

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A solid player is calling raises with A4? 34? A solid player gets it all in with pocket 7s?

I think this is a trick post because you called him a solid player then gave him a range of hands that a solid player would likely fold.

[n4rf]

It's true that if you call his stack you basically have to push your stack in on the river and you won't get away from this hand.

Not all players RR 22/33/44 here since they just like to set mine. It could also be he has A4 or A5, not such a surreal hand to have.

This hand is just really hard to figure out without any real reads on opponent. Him playing solid for a few hands isn't enough :\