Fort McDowell Arizona Poker Room Report - Page 2

h20man65 · #11 03-13-2006, 07:20 PM

Since we're in AZ....what's up with the Wild Horse Pass poker room. Anyone got some info????
Thanks.

Percula · #12 03-13-2006, 07:39 PM

I haven't played at the other rooms in the valley in a long time (>18 months) and they did not have much going on then. Just some 3/6 and 4/8 tables, nothing to get excited about.

I would be interested in hearing if any of them have the spread limit games going now and details like blinds and min/max buy-ins.

h20man65 · #13 03-13-2006, 07:40 PM

Just created a post here....so keep an eye out. Thanks

Aces_up_North · #14 03-13-2006, 07:52 PM

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I would rather drag $600 pots then $25 pots. What about you? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I want them all... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

To be perfectly honest, a lot of the time, I find it easier to play against the regulars and rocks. They are very readable and predictable.

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yes this is true, I would take them all as well [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Howard Beale · #15 03-13-2006, 08:37 PM

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Additionally, they'd probably have to get them for the entire room. This doesn't do them any good for the tourneys, which are the only thing that fills up the room. They can't have the shufflers on some tourney tables and not on others. I'd guess that they can't justify the expense.

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Shouldn't be a problem. Casino del Sol down south has shufflers on about 75% of their tables. During tourney time, every table goes to hand shuffling whether the table has an automatic shuffler or not. For cash games, they just start games on the shuffler tables first. Works out pretty well.

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Right. I thought of that 2 seconds after I hit 'submit' and then slapped my forehead.

GrinningBuddha · #16 03-13-2006, 09:10 PM

Just a quick question Perc...

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Now here is my beef.

1) Playing only 8 orbits between the two tables, took over 60 mins! OMG can you get any slower!

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8 orbits = 80 hands (or 72 if you're 9 handed down there). Even 72 hands an hour at a B&M is something to praise. Did you mean 8 hands in an hour?

DesertCat · #17 03-13-2006, 09:33 PM

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I asked a senior manager a couple of years ago about the shuffle masters. He told me that besides the expense they don't necessarily want to rake faster. I got the impression that he was concerned that his much smaller player pool couldn't support it.

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Howard, I don't quite understand this. I though the Fort had a lower rake than Casino AZ, so wouldn't the additional hands per hour from shufflers be less of a concern? I mean how much faster are his players going broke anyways? Rake is just part of the reason bad players go under.

It's nice to have the lower rake, but not if you have to put up with slower games.

Howard Beale · #18 03-13-2006, 10:31 PM

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I asked a senior manager a couple of years ago about the shuffle masters. He told me that besides the expense they don't necessarily want to rake faster. I got the impression that he was concerned that his much smaller player pool couldn't support it.

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Howard, I don't quite understand this. I though the Fort had a lower rake than Casino AZ, so wouldn't the additional hands per hour from shufflers be less of a concern? I mean how much faster are his players going broke anyways? Rake is just part of the reason bad players go under.

It's nice to have the lower rake, but not if you have to put up with slower games.

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The house rake is less at the Fort than at CA. $2 as opposed to $3 or $4 depending on the time of year. The same $5 total comes out in the larger pots but more is returned to the players in various promotions (which I suppose helps keep players coming back) and keeps the BBJ high.

The rake is less of a concern but I'm guessing it's still a concern. The Fort doesn't have nearly the number of regulars as CA. The rake (a holy fortune) is coming from that pool which I guess they don't want to drain too quickly.

Anyhoo, that's what I was told (the not necessarily wanting to rake faster part) and that's the conclusion I came to. I'd much prefer that they got the shufflers for the few occasions I go there. As Percula said the play is horribly slow.