Simple preflop AQs in SB facing a Button 3 bet from LAG

[whynot?]

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I don't like your 3 bet size

Also, the fact that this question was even posed suggests a fundamental lack of understanding about how your actions are connected to one another. Did you really raise without any idea of what to do if he shoved?

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nath

of course i had a plan - i was convinced aq s was ahead of his range and appropriately called. - the truth at the time i figured he was doing this with AT+, 88+, and think kq was even in his range. so i took about 3 seconds to call.

But what i really wanted tho to see if that logic made sense or if you saw a guy changing speeds how you factor that in in cases like this. clearly i really didnt at the time

[nath]

Ok, I gotcha. That makes sense. Personally, I 4 bet a lot in spots vs people I think are willing to 3 bet / fold, so I would think his range is wide here

[stevepa]

He's effectively shoving like 12.5x your raise, so unless you have notes that read: "OMFG BIGGEST MANIAC EVER!!11!1!" he doesn't have a wide range. Still it's probably close. I'd have no problem 5 betting if he normal 4bet, but I think this raise makes AK much more likely, and hands you have dominated much less likely.

[ASPoker8]

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He's effectively shoving like 12.5x your raise, so unless you have notes that read: "OMFG BIGGEST MANIAC EVER!!11!1!" he doesn't have a wide range. Still it's probably close. I'd have no problem 5 betting if he normal 4bet, but I think this raise makes AK much more likely, and hands you have dominated much less likely.

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Steve..

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Hero (t123585)

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[betgo]

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He's effectively shoving like 12.5x your raise, so unless you have notes that read: "OMFG BIGGEST MANIAC EVER!!11!1!" he doesn't have a wide range. Still it's probably close. I'd have no problem 5 betting if he normal 4bet, but I think this raise makes AK much more likely, and hands you have dominated much less likely.

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Huh, he is shoving 5x raise. OP is getting 1.65-1 pot odds to call, and AQs has to be ahead of that versus his range. A lot of people will bluff 3-bet here, and it looks like villain has FE.

[stevepa]

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He's effectively shoving like 12.5x your raise, so unless you have notes that read: "OMFG BIGGEST MANIAC EVER!!11!1!" he doesn't have a wide range. Still it's probably close. I'd have no problem 5 betting if he normal 4bet, but I think this raise makes AK much more likely, and hands you have dominated much less likely.

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Steve..

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Hero (t123585)

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I thought I even checked that... Oh well, call faster next time.