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Old 08-29-2007, 11:28 AM
Go_Blue88 Go_Blue88 is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

i'd foldzor.

i added zor to make it sound like a cooler thing to do.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:38 AM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

According to the "raise on turn = beat one pair" theorem, looks like an easy lay down, especially vs a calling station with 1.5 of Agg factor.

Bet more this flop, and fold turn vs this guy.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

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The positions here are all messed up. You're in SB first to act preflop?

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yes sorry, this converter really sucks, the real positions are :
Hero : UTG
Villain : BTN

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OK. I fold. My experience is that calling station type dudes never ever bluff raise in this spot. If they're going to run a bluff, they wait until they miss and you check and then they bet.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

Yeah, I'd fold this too given passivity of villain. I would probably make a PSB or slight overpot on the flop with drawy board OOP given number of turn scare cards.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

call hes bluffing the fd obv
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

Why would you assume he is a bad CS?
His stats are pretty solid and high WTSD could be just a matter of getting a lot of good hands, he did win half of his SD.

I can't laydown here for 100bb.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

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Why would you assume he is a bad CS?
His stats are pretty solid and high WTSD could be just a matter of getting a lot of good hands, he did win half of his SD.

I can't laydown here for 100bb.

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It's not just a matter of stats, I saw him calling a lot of c-bets without raising unless he had at least TPTK.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

Also, I was searching in my db and there is this hand that I played a month ago, but I don't know if that pleads in favour of the fold or the call, anyway this proves he's dumber than I thought :

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00/$4.00 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP2 ($135.40)
MP3 ($24.20)
CO ($630.50)
Button ($400.00)
SB ($537.00)
BB ($394.00) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
MP2 calls $4.00, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $18.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Button calls $42.00,

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $130 )
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100.00</font>, Button calls $100.00,

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $330 )
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $234 and is all-in</font>, Button calls $234.00,

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $564 )


Results:
Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Button has K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Outcome: Hero wins $791.00

lol
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:45 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

I'm folding vs this guy and not feeling very bad about it tbh.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold KK overpair on turn ?

Where did you find your handhistory converter?
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