find fold with JJ in reraised pot?

[xorbie]

co vs button you should prob either be 4betting pf or crai or something that puts more money into the pot.

[catcher193]

id rather donk/call all in or CRAI on the flop that this.

[RiverHebrew2]

tbh looks like he's got like KK slowplayed on the turn or like 67s. I'd pitched the hand on this river. C/rai on flop isn't bad for 100BB depending on his stats and your history with him. If he's TAGGY, your line was fine. If he's LAG, I sorta like c/rai on flop.

[crazygoose]

Generally in situations like this, and maybe this is a little transparent, I like to four bet like 3.5x preflop. It commits you if he pushes but if you do the math, accounting for the fact you are in the CO and his 3 betting range is a lot bigger, I think you need him to fold like 70% of the time for this to be +ev. Sometimes he will push with hands you have good equity against. If he calls its pretty gay but rarely happens against regs.

[Irish Mafia]

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co vs button you should prob either be 4betting pf or crai or something that puts more money into the pot.

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I understand the logic that the button knows hero is raising light, so button doesn't necessarily have a strong hand himself. But isn't 4-betting jacks tantamount to bluffing? the ONLY hand you are getting action from that you are "ahead" of is AK. Or is 4-betting pf permissible here to take away the positional disadvantage you give away if you just call his 3bet preflop?

[tcorbin16]

what xorbie said.