NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

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Raise 22 preflop. Read Tien's post on 6max fundamentals for beginners. Also read Chris Ferguson's article http://www.chrisferguson.com/article-3 titled "Why I never call as the first to enter a pot."

As played I'd fold flop, never reverse float with 22

[ajmargarine]

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also, rebuy preflop or move down to the $25 if you can't play a full stack.

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Wah, wah, wah. You play your way, I'll play mine.

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You asked for peoples advice. Please do not be shocked if they give it to you.

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Except that advice isn't really advice about the hand;

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Yes it is. You don't have the implied odds to call the PFR with your stacksize with 22. And don't be a douche when people give you feedback.

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also, rebuy preflop or move down to the $25 if you can't play a full stack.

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Wah, wah, wah. You play your way, I'll play mine.

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You asked for peoples advice. Please do not be shocked if they give it to you.

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Except that advice isn't really advice about the hand;

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Yes it is. You don't have the implied odds to call the PFR with your stacksize with 22. And don't be a douche when people give you feedback.

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While I don't like to be thought of as a douche (particularly by someone who's opinion I respect such as yourself), if I hadn't replied the way I did jessy probably wouldn't have come back to explain why the stack sizes were relevant in this case, and I wouldn't have found Tien's post or the link to the Chris Ferguson post. So if my being a little bratty caused people to actually explain their reasoning, that's a tradeoff I'm willing to make.

Wrt this hand: How is the 5/10 rule being misapplied here? I have a pocket pair, and it costs me less than 10% of my stack to see the flop. Position matters less since I'll know exactly where I am on the flop (though after this particular flop I was willing to guess that I was ahead).

Raising with two players between me and the button doesn't seem right. At best, I win the blinds. Often, I get reraised and have to fold. At worst, I get called and have to c-bet relatively blindly. (I realize that all of these are far less painful at 100BB. Mea culpa.) True, CO's range is probably wider than usual, but it's not ATC. By limping I get to see a flop, and while it's less +EV than at 100BB, I can't see how it's not still +EV.

[canavarr]

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Raising with two players between me and the button doesn't seem right. At best, I win the blinds. Often, I get reraised and have to fold. At worst, I get called and have to c-bet relatively blindly. (I realize that all of these are far less painful at 100BB. Mea culpa.) True, CO's range is probably wider than usual, but it's not ATC. By limping I get to see a flop, and while it's less +EV than at 100BB, I can't see how it's not still +EV.

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1) don't underestimate winning the blinds, be happy and move on.
2) don't fear a re-raise (one downside of playing short as you said you might be forced to fold to a reraise as you maynot get the proper odds to flop a set)
3) most of the time you will take down a small pot with a c-bet, or win a big one with a set (another downside of playing short, as your monsters -like a set- will not pay you much)
4) you will really only lose when your c-bet fails which is alright you tried, you kept max pressure on the opponent but didn't work, oh well move on...

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On the flop, that's only "if you like your hand and you want to win it here." It's probably not advisable that often though.

[dhdell]

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also, rebuy preflop or move down to the $25 if you can't play a full stack.

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Wah, wah, wah. You play your way, I'll play mine.

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You asked for peoples advice. Please do not be shocked if they give it to you.

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Except that advice isn't really advice about the hand;

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Yes it is. You don't have the implied odds to call the PFR with your stacksize with 22. And don't be a douche when people give you feedback.

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Yes, he DOES have implied odds to call, douche.

[TheSalche]

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Yes, he DOES have implied odds to call, douche.

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That was silly to say to the mod.

You have to bet that turn if you're check/calling the flop. I'd prefer leading on a flop like that, check/raise if you're feeling risky.

Yes, raise this preflop.

If you're trying to prepare for tournament play I would suggest that you *gasp* play tournaments ...

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1) Raise Preflop
2) Fold to flop bet

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If you're trying to prepare for tournament play I would suggest that you *gasp* play tournaments ...

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Where ever did I get the idea that it was the norm to be sarcastic and snide on this forum?

As I said previously, I'm specifically practicing 50BB play. Playing tournaments online, I'd only be in those scenarios, what, 15 minutes out of 1-2 hours, 3-5 hours if I money? Is it *gasp* that hard to see that not everyone has that kind of time commitment available to them?

This way, I can go back to real life when needed. With respect to the game itself, I'm involved in more hands and get more practice in reading flops/players. It won't exactly simulate the tightness of live tournament players, but online MTTs aren't exactly known for being nitfests.

To anticipate another question: SnGs have unique properties, being closed economies, that make tight play early on a good play, so that wouldn't be a good way to practice either.

[ajmargarine]

You cannot play implied odds hands (22, 67s) profitably with a starting stack of 50 bb's or less.