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Old 07-22-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

This flop rarely hits villan, so when the other guy folded to his CB, I figured I could call to see the next card. When the board paired, I figured MHIG. My questions are:

- Should I have check/raised the flop, bet out, check/called, or check/folded? Why?
- On the turn, should I check/raise or bet out?
- Should I bluff the river? How often in villan's shoes would you call with an unimproved Ace on a two-pair board? How much does it matter how low/high the two pairs are?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $30.10
BB: $20.00
UTG: $42.50
tnt93 (MP): $24.35
CO: $121.20
BTN: $65.90

Preflop: tnt93 is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, tnt93 calls $0.50, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50, tnt93 calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, tnt93 checks, <font color="red">CO bets $3.70</font>, BB folds, tnt93 calls $3.70

Turn: ($13.65) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
tnt93 checks, CO checks

River: ($13.65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
tnt93 checks, CO checks

Pot Size: $13.65 ($0.65 Rake)
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

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Old 07-22-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

also, rebuy preflop or move down to the $25 if you can't play a full stack.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

Wow, how about that? I do think there's a slight difference because of the third player in my situation; a thinking villan might think a c/r from me on the flop is a steal attempt, since a CB doesn't necessarily mean anything, and now there's only one player left to beat.

All told, I think I should have called and bet out the turn when it paired the board.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

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also, rebuy preflop or move down to the $25 if you can't play a full stack.

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Wah, wah, wah. You play your way, I'll play mine. I'm prepping for early play in a live tournament, so 50BB stacks are going to be a more likely scenario than 100BB stacks.

Also, I'm just starting out in 50NL. If I'm at a table for a while and find someone who I can get a bead on, I'm more than happy to buy in for more, but until then, I prefer the lower risk.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

If you like your hand and you want to win with it here you need to check-raise.
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

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also, rebuy preflop or move down to the $25 if you can't play a full stack.

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Wah, wah, wah. You play your way, I'll play mine.

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You asked for peoples advice. Please do not be shocked if they give it to you. His advice is correct, you lose a lot of money by not buying in full.

You say you're trying to lower your risk - if so you really need to drop down to a lower buy-in.

If you're just trying to brush up on your shortstack play that's fine, just don't be offended if someone points that out to you.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

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also, rebuy preflop or move down to the $25 if you can't play a full stack.

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Wah, wah, wah. You play your way, I'll play mine.

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You asked for peoples advice. Please do not be shocked if they give it to you.

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Except that advice isn't really advice about the hand; it's just a reflexive response when anyone sees Hero with less than 100BB. It's kind of like when someone posts a problem with their PC and someone else replies with "Get a Mac": the advice might be correct in the abstract, but isn't very helpful in this specific case.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

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If you like your hand and you want to win with it here you need to check-raise.

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On the flop or on the turn?

Would most villans interpret a check-raise on the flop as one pair, or more? If only one pair, couldn't they float and check behind on the turn for a free card?
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: NL50 6-max: 22 OOP to raiser, flop/turn favorable. Actions?

I only mentioned preflop because you have a small pair. Your call is barely +ev if it is +ev at all because c/o may be isolating you with nothing and never pay you off. With a full stack you can raise preflop and act accordingly on the flop. If you had AK and limped here (as bad as that is) stack sizes wouldn't matter as much.
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