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#11
07-13-2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: 6.50 stars....ICM says push, would you?
sorry, the T6 was soooted [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], but anyway played around with it, and his range doesn't matter anyway, but yes when you tighten up the SB it becomes a fold.
Question about the software itself, does it develop a model for individual villians based on their play? It does seem to give me fairly loose ranges most of the time. 
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#12
07-13-2007, 12:24 AM
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Re: 6.50 stars....ICM says push, would you?
I would never call here.
The default ranges on sngwiz are the reason i dont mind everyone and their mom using it these days
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#13
07-13-2007, 12:30 AM
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Re: 6.50 stars....ICM says push, would you?
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I widened the SB because he was retarded. He ended up showing T6o. UTG was a little loose but maybe I overestimated that one...Wiz's default range was 16. But yeah, I'm ok with SB's range. But yeah given the ranges above, and the default ranges Wiz gave it was a push. [/ QUOTE ] SB basically called (technically a push but with 0 FE same as a call), for his tournament with a whole orbit of free hands coming, with T6o?! I may not be qualified to give advice on $6 SnGs, i dont know how a player that bad would still be around at these blinds. I seriously struggle to believe he had T6.
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#14
07-13-2007, 12:58 AM
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Re: 6.50 stars....ICM says push, would you?
PokerStars Game #10906492237: Tournament #55292197, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) -
{hand edited} *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3070 | Rake 0 Board [5d 3c Kd 2d 4s] Seat 1: "Hero" (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: "SB" showed [7c 7d] and lost with a pair of Sevens Seat 4: xxxxx folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: xxxxx folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: xxxxx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: "donk" (small blind) showed [Th 6h] and won (3070) with a straight, Deuce to Six
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#15
07-13-2007, 06:07 AM
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Re: 6.50 stars....ICM says push, would you?
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Seat 9: "donk" (small blind) showed [Th 6h] and won (3070) with a straight, Deuce to Six [/ QUOTE ] just lol its at times like this you wonder if these people are cheats and know what cards are coming
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#16
07-13-2007, 06:20 AM
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Re: 6.50 stars....ICM says push, would you?
Cougar, SNGWiz doesn't "develop" models of any kind because unlike progs such as PA-PRO it has no AI. What it does do is alter call/shove ranges for villains based on position and relative stack sizes. How it does these interpolations is a little murky and not very well explained, however there is a little bit of info in the "opponent modeling" section of the reference lit.
The guys you were playing were unbelievable! As has been said 8-10% seems more realistic for a reasonable player UTG. I'd fold 99 to a UTG raise like that, but am beginning to wonder if I'm giving these folks way too much respect!
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