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Old 07-04-2007, 12:53 AM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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i fold this hand pf all day in the CO because this always happens in the games I play.

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WTF? I have never folded A2s in the CO in my limit holdem career. Not once, and I never will.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:28 AM
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i open any ace in the co in 6m and i'm still v nitty pf.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:49 AM
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The more I think about it the more I think that a check here is good.

A continuation bet here provides more money in the pot and quite possibly a check to on the turn. The pot is massive here with draws left right and centre and your against two opponents.

You might be able to fold a few Ax's I guess. Nah I like the check here
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:05 AM
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learning to check in spots like these is one of the things that i feel improved my play alot.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:35 AM
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learning to check in spots like these is one of the things that i feel improved my play alot.

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Me2. But I still bet when I am not paying enough attention. Its such a bad habit. But basically. When against 2 loose and aggressive players and the flop comes coordinated with mid to high cards you should strongly consider checking with no pair no draw but at least a few outs.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:03 PM
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learning to check in spots like these is one of the things that i feel improved my play alot.

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Entity is really good at recognizing these spots. This hand seems a fairly easy check through vs two opponents given the flop consistency but Entity has an uncanny habit of flop ranges/flop consistency in blind defense situations that come up in his videos, fun to watch.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:04 PM
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The main reason to bet this flop is to take it down on the turn or river.

Whenever I check in spots like these (where I know that I'll be called if I bet) I feel kinda bad about not betting them.

FWIW I don't know exactly when I should be checking or betting, and I'll sometimes check here. But I don't like how it feels. If I had a little more information to work with (like a sample of hundreds of hands where I bet the flop and turn and river UI) I could conclusively tell you which action is best... but I don't.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:07 PM
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i fold this hand pf all day in the CO because this always happens in the games I play.

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WTF? I have never folded A2s in the CO in my limit holdem career. Not once, and I never will.

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Old 07-05-2007, 09:59 AM
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i open any ace in the co in 6m and i'm still v nitty pf.

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I won't open with A2o here and I'll even occasionally fold A2s but it's a pretty rare spot where I'd fold a suited Ace in the CO.

Others have already nailed why I checked here, but the thread is an interesting one because I almost always continuation bet vs. two opponents, but board texture here is really important and you're getting called (or more frequently, checkraised by SB's range here) almost all the time, and you can also get a free look at the turn pretty frequently by checking since Button is, to a degree, loose-passive.

Rob
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:06 PM
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The main reason to bet this flop is to take it down on the turn or river.

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I see what you are saying, but I think you don't take it down on the turn or river enough (lol at 3-barreling here vs. these two...) for spending the 1.5-2.5 BB's to be worth it.
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