$100NL 6max 3bet Pot Flop Decision

[aislephive]

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cuz he's obv squeezing AQ and 99 too, and the other guy is like always calling getting such sick odds

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AQ and 99 definitely are at the very bottom of his 3betting range, and I highly doubt he 3bets them all the time. For comparison, I play about 26/21 and in villain's spot I would 3 bet probably AK/JJ+. AQ I would 3 bet half the time or so and call the other half, and usually calling with TT (sometimes JJ also). And a 3 bet with 99 in villain's spot is terrible, calling is much better. But for the sake of your argument, let's assume he is ALWAYS 3 betting a range of AQ+/99+ ..

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

647,250,912 games 0.005 secs 129,450,182,400 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.255% 43.30% 00.96% 280227552 6216198.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 55.745% 54.78% 00.96% 354590964 6216198.00 { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }

And it's still not quite that simple. If you call you're going to be OOP and basically any flop where you don't hit a set you have no idea what to do. And you certainly don't have odds to mine for a set if you put villain on a tight range. Given the size of the reraise UTG+1 is not going to be calling nearly as often as you think as well. Shoving is probably a better option than calling, but you can see there against that range (which is way wider than I think it actually is) a shove is about breakeven. If you take away 99/AQ, or at least a few combos to make them less likely, then we become a pretty big dog to his range and shoving becomes very -EV.

[0evg0]

lol way too much math

i've played 23/18 for 200k hands and 99/AQ are 100% 3bets, and 88/AJs get 20% too

folding sucks

[aislephive]

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lol way too much math

i've played 23/18 for 200k hands and 99/AQ are 100% 3bets, and 88/AJs get 20% too

folding sucks

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Translation: I'm bad at poker.

[0evg0]

You don't play Stars 100nl/200nl, do you?

[aislephive]

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You don't play Stars 100nl/200nl, do you?

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I have before, don't currently. Regardless, if you think that 3 betting 88/99 and AQ/AJ is good to an UTG raise from a solid player you pretty much don't have a clue what you're talking about. You sound like the typical 2p2er who 3 bets certain hands because it's cool but have no clue why they do it.

[Bukem_]

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lol way too much math

i've played 23/18 for 200k hands and 99/AQ are 100% 3bets, and 88/AJs get 20% too

folding sucks

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Translation: I'm bad at poker.

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But our pride is intact! Never once have folded best hand.

[Weatherhead03]

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lol way too much math

i've played 23/18 for 200k hands and 99/AQ are 100% 3bets, and 88/AJs get 20% too

folding sucks

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Why exactly would you ever 3-bet AJs and 88 there?

[Jay Riall]

Aislephive has my stamp of approval in this thread, I agree with everything he has said. 0evg0 - your ideas about preflop are really misguided imo.

[Speedlimits]

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folding preflop is so terrible lol

QQ i flip a coin, but call anyways because i always do

who was villain btw

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Allen6786

[Jay Riall]

Also people who are saying 'lol folding preflop is terrible' - you realise you should be going broke on a tonne of flops? Cuz 'going broke with TT is lolz terrible without a better read here.'