$100NL 6max 3bet Pot Flop Decision

[Speedlimits]

<font color="blue"> Villian is 21/18/8 over 265 hands and has been 3betting with a high frequency on a few of my tables.</font>



Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $137.25
BB: $91.05
Hero (UTG): $322.80
MP: $139.45
CO: $54.35
BTN: $123.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, MP calls $4.00, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $20.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $16.00, MP calls $16.00

Do you like a 4bet/shove/call or fold here against a light 3bettor?

Flop: ($61.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $45.00</font>, Hero ?

<font color="blue">Also if you fold on the flop do we fold QQ here?</font>

[sightless]

I muck qq and TT in this spot, doesnt seem like a good spot for him to be bluffing

[Speedlimits]

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I muck qq and TT in this spot, doesnt seem like a good spot for him to be bluffing

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Do you ever 4bet pf though?

[aislephive]

I fold preflop usually, just a tough hand to play OOP vs a decent player. I mean, he isn't going to be squeezing with a huge range when you raise UTG and MP cold calls.

As played, I would fold the flop. I highly doubt button cbets AK here in a reraised pot multiway. I probably would 4 bet QQ preflop but if I did call I suppose it's a fold on the flop as well.

[Speedlimits]

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I fold preflop usually, just a tough hand to play OOP vs a decent player. I mean, he isn't going to be squeezing with a huge range when you raise UTG and MP cold calls.

As played, I would fold the flop. I highly doubt button cbets AK here in a reraised pot multiway. I probably would 4 bet QQ preflop but if I did call I suppose it's a fold on the flop as well.

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What's your 3bet calling range? Remember this guy had been doing it fairly frequently and I didn't know MP was going to cold call.

[AE6]

there's a huge difference between 3betting trash against CO/BTN opens and 3betting over a UTG raise and a UTG+1 call. even if it appears that he reraises light, i would never assume he is doing so in this particular spot without a history of him being out of line.

maybe i'm extrapolating too much from his hud stats, but he looks like a strong TAG and they know better than to squeeze over UTG and UTG+1 w/o the goods.

fold preflop

[0evg0]

folding preflop is so terrible lol

QQ i flip a coin, but call anyways because i always do

who was villain btw

[minSim]

If you fold this flop you should fold preflop imo.
And I'm seeing a turn with queens.

[aislephive]

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folding preflop is so terrible lol

QQ i flip a coin, but call anyways because i always do

who was villain btw

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I'd like to hear a logical argument for why folding preflop is "terrible."

[0evg0]

cuz he's obv squeezing AQ and 99 too, and the other guy is like always calling getting such sick odds