placed 3rd in a tourney, where should I go from here?

[BlackDreams]

1/2c tables would drive me crazy with "all in's" thrown around on almost every hand.

[Cry Me A River]

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I was beating .01/.02 pretty consistently for a good rate but couldnt put in enough hands/hours to grind up a roll for even 10NL. Im debating right now if i wanna just skip 10NL and move straight to 25NL. Anyways any advice would be appreciated thanks.


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Skipping levels can give you "sticker shock" due to much larger pots and bets. This can lead to tentative play, scared money and playing too conservatively.

I'd suggest a session or two at $10NL to gradually get used to the bet sizing and then only if you're happy with your play/results move up.

Check out the micro forum or full ring forum and see what the consensus is on the skill jump from $5NL to $25NL. It could be considerable.

[techrush]

Actually im not kidding at all. I grinded that level for a few weeks 2-3 hours a day.

I have ran into a lot of this attitude on this board and a few other places though when i used to mention i played .01/.02. I geuss its just something you should keep to yourself.

Anyways i wont have that problem anymore [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[EvilDruidNE]

on one hand yeah you need to play within your bankroll. but some people on here are total nits about like omg man your moving up from .5/.10 to 25./.50 ?? its like get real were talking about like 25$ here , live casinos start at 1/2NL with like 200$ buy in being the norm so when you think of it that way youre still being conservative.

the bottom line is if you can play it, feel confident, and most importantly be a winning player then do it. just cause theres 5 different blind levels between point a and b, doesnt mean you need to stop at all of them

[BlackDreams]

Hm, I appreciate every piece of advice on here.

So I have $1000... would it be more effective playing like 1/2 for a while with max buy-in or taking stabs at higher limits with caution?

OR

I could play SNG's... I've been pretty successful with those in the past. In a 6 man game, what is your recommendation as to the highest I should buy in with relative to my roll? With a 9 man game, what do you recommend?

I appreciate it all guys.

[lucky_mf]

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Hm, I appreciate every piece of advice on here.

So I have $1000... would it be more effective playing like 1/2 for a while with max buy-in or taking stabs at higher limits with caution?

OR

I could play SNG's... I've been pretty successful with those in the past. In a 6 man game, what is your recommendation as to the highest I should buy in with relative to my roll? With a 9 man game, what do you recommend?

I appreciate it all guys.

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$1000 is a reasonable roll for $50NL. I don't see why you don't just play this level for a while. If you are reasonably good you will make $50 bucks per 1000 hands and you can take some shots at $100NL after 5000 hands or so.

Even a solid winner can easily lose $1000 in a bad $200NL ($1/2 session) and $2,000 swings are common at $400NL ($2/4). You don't have the roll for these levels and you might not (probably are not) even capable of beating them. Furthermore, it is not clear that you can beat $50NL so if you do lose a large sum you might not be able to rebuild.

I am aggressive with respect to moving up - shot taking, but you have to be smart about it. In particular, having a level that you are sure you can beat are very important.

Lucky

[BlackDreams]

Thanks lucky. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[gedanken]

I don't understand this conversation at all. Your bankroll has nothing to do with your skill level or what level you can profitably play UNLESS your bankroll itself is the limiting factor.

A total poker novice can build a big bankroll by non-poker means -- that doesn't automatically make him or her ready for high stakes tables.

Start at a level you have been beating, or the next one up. Play a good number of hands, like 1000+, and IF you're beating it consistently, you're ready to move up again (if you have the bankroll).

I can't imagine why a windfall bankroll alone makes you think it's time to move up.

[gutte169]

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I don't understand this conversation at all. Your bankroll has nothing to do with your skill level or what level you can profitably play UNLESS your bankroll itself is the limiting factor.

A total poker novice can build a big bankroll by non-poker means -- that doesn't automatically make him or her ready for high stakes tables.

Start at a level you have been beating, or the next one up. Play a good number of hands, like 10000 , and IF you're beating it consistently, you're ready to move up again (if you have the bankroll).

I can't imagine why a windfall bankroll alone makes you think it's time to move up.

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Great advice, but 1000 hands says nothing. Play where you are comfortable as far as full ring games go. With $1000, you can play around a little bit, but stay where you are comfortable. I recommend starting conservative at 10NL. If you log profit over 5K-6K hands, move up and reevaluate. If you feel like getting "frisky", MTTs sound like a decent idea for you. They are also a good way to get your "risk" fix without dropping 5 buy-ins at 50NL.

[BlackDreams]

Well basically the reason I'm posting this thread is to determine how I could manage my money better and the answer seems to be obvious each time I log in to the forums and read up on everyone's personal experiences.

I'm pretty good at beating games however I'd like to be smart with my bankroll when variance swings the other way. I think, and it's my opinion, that my bankroll is my limiting factor. However, I'd like to play thousands of hands just to confirm that I'm a good player. I need discipline when it comes to bankroll. That's why I'm going to start off at .25/.50 NL opposed to the higher NL games that I used to try and beat. (I used to win at high stakes but then a bad beat would come along and wipe out the roll, obviously thats why I keep losing, I never play what I can afford.)

MTTs I find work for me. You can risk decent amounts to gain an even higher profit. Sometimes I like the idea playing with 1500 chips opposed to actual money play. But I do like each game the same.

If I don't start out small, how do I know I can tough out 10k hands at the next level, etc etc.

But really thanks for the advice guys.