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#11
03-01-2006, 01:58 PM
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Re: Pushing with Big draws, are these spews?
Hand 1: looks ok, maybe you get bigger flush draw to fold, you're probably behind when called. But at least here it's just over twice what a pot raise would be.
Hand 2: dont like. Lead, then reraise allin. You're c/r all in is 4 times what a pot sized raise would be. In general, I'm more likely to push draws hard HU against a raiser who's most likely ahead, but will probably fold/give me more action later because of it. In limped pots that may develop multiway, i'm more likely to call and try to hit. That being said, i'll more often push non nut flush draws a harder. 
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#12
03-01-2006, 02:12 PM
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Re: Pushing with Big draws, are these spews?
I like hand 2.
I prefer just calling the minraise on the flop in hand 1. There was no preflop raise, so opponents hand ranges are less defined. There are 2 opponents, so your outs could be dirty - this push move is probably better heads up. Moreover, by just calling the minraise on the flop, you have pot (+ implied) odds a-plenty. Ojo_Rojo
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#13
03-01-2006, 02:56 PM
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Re: Pushing with Big draws, are these spews?
OP,
If you know you're getting so many callers, sure get the money in fast cause it is a huge pot and you're effectively drawing to the nuts (though those later callers now have pot odds with their lone flush draw). Why would you rather push than pot it, and reevaluate on the turn? you can get away without losing your stack if you miss.
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#14
03-01-2006, 04:08 PM
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Re: Pushing with Big draws, are these spews?
[ QUOTE ]
OP, Why would you rather push than pot it, and reevaluate on the turn? you can get away without losing your stack if you miss. [/ QUOTE ] Hand 1:Isn't a pot-sized bet borderline stack committing in the first hand? The pot is already approximately $50 when it gets to me; if I make a PSB it would leave me with $108 facing a $180-$240 pot on the turn if I'm called. If the turn then blanks do you just give up? I think calling in this spot is much better, since I'm facing two opponents, and the odds of them both laying down to a PSB aren't good. That being said, My FE when pushing probably wasn't good either since the pot is multiway, and at least one of them probably has a solid hand here. [ QUOTE ] You're massively over-betting the pot. Do you play your sets like this? [/ QUOTE ] Yep, sometimes I do. Thanks for the input guys.
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