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Old 06-12-2007, 09:04 AM
JackAll JackAll is offline
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Default Re: 200NL | I get 4bet holding aces :)

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Why isn't calling going to kill our action again?

Seriously, calling doesn't disguise our hand at all.

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Yea, I was about to say this. Calling doesn't exactly disguise our hand at all.
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:20 AM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default Re: 200NL | I get 4bet holding aces :)

to all those who are saying i shouldn't shove AA if I'm never bluffshoving here - i'm definitely definitely instashoving AK in this spot with this history. so 4bet/folding QQ/JJ would be really terrible for my opponents.

really, the only thing i'm concerned about is that it just doesn't look like he has any of those hands. i really think he has complete air much more often. i guess that's a flow thing i can't really express in the post.

by the way, i think calling looks more like a stubborn QQ/JJ than like AA. i could see him c-betting on K-high flops hoping to get me off that.
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:04 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 200NL | I get 4bet holding aces :)

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Why isn't calling going to kill our action again?

Seriously, calling doesn't disguise our hand at all.


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Yah as soon as we call he instantly puts on AA? Please. People call this 4bet with loads of crap, no way does it telegraph our hand. Also, if your worried about looking too strong wtf does a shove or 5bet do? You think he calls QQ to a shove, but can get away from it on a rag flop when we call his 4bet? This is extremely naive imo. Also, I think if someone is willing to 4bet light they will be willing to cbet a decent amount of the time, at least more than a lot of people in this thread seem to think.
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