JJ tough spot

[cs3]

bump, because im pretty interested in results now

also another point i thought i'd make:
i think a lot of guys saying that villain will stack off with worse/shove worse are assuming that he plays just like you do. just becasue you (2p2ers in genreral) play a hyperaggro/light call down game doesnt mean that most opponents do as well. asumming they will play a hand exactly how you would in their postion is a pretty bad way to go about playing the game.




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if the turn goes check/check then we likely gave a free card to a 2 outer.

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[bilbo-san]

Preflop is ugly, and in the BB when CO/Button opens and SB 3-bets I think you should almost always be saying to yourself "3-bet or fold" no matter what you have.

CO may be only calling this flop with QQ because to him, your preflop cold-call has him saying WHAT THE [censored]? and he's worried you have AA/KK.

Preflop I think you should fold or 4-bet unless (as Isura pointed out) SB is very aggro and has a wide range. Even then I hate just calling because CO is going to be just as aware of SB's range and could 4-bet stuff like AQ because you just look weird with the pre-flop cold-call.

Whenever I see someone with TAG stats cold-call a 3-bet, I tend to put them on JJ or QQ (or someone who hasn't learned how to fold AK yet), but some people always put them on slow played rockets. Personally, I think if you never ever ever cold-call 3-bets no matter what you have, that's probably not too sub-optimal a strategy.

[Isura]

Also, I'm not worried about being behind here. I would shove and hope for a hero call from TT or less.

[drywater]

The way he played, CO has probably 88+ and maybe AQs+. Turn bet the pot.

[johnnyrocket]

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fold pre. c/f flop. c/f turn

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you have to be on crazy pills, do you know mugatu?

[johnnyrocket]

this forum gets so much nittier by the day, bump it to medium stakes and i guarentee much diff answers

[johnnyrocket]

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this forum gets so much nittier by the day, bump it to medium stakes and i guarentee much diff answers

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lately its been everyone saying like fold overpair, i dont think he will c-bet without a monster, etc etc

o he def has the nuts cuz he bet so fold, etc etc

[Isura]

ssnl has always been nitty

[cs3]

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fold pre. c/f flop. c/f turn

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you have to be on crazy pills, do you know mugatu?
this forum gets so much nittier by the day, bump it to medium stakes and i guarentee much diff answers



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really.. i thouhgt penguin was from MSNL... or even HSNL?
and of course we'll get different answers to a lot of questionable hands. thats pretty obvious. 3/6 and 5/10 games play waaaaay different than 1/2.

so anytway, are we geting results?

[tuuufts]

I shove the turn he calls with QQ.