JJ tough spot

tuuufts · #1 06-05-2007, 03:18 AM

SB is 31/20 over 50.
CO is 20/13/3 over 380 and I havent seen him get out of line. Is pf a raise or fold situation? Wtf do I do on the turn?

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MP ($339.90)
CO ($197)
Button ($190)
SB ($218.10)
Hero ($433.85)
UTG ($340.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $7, 1 fold, SB raises to $23, Hero calls $20, CO calls $15.

Flop: ($67) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $44, CO calls $44, SB folds.

Turn: ($155) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ???

SykoraG · #2 06-05-2007, 03:30 AM

I think you're beat. the 3bet cold call smells of aces or kings, as well as the flop call.

tuuufts · #3 06-05-2007, 03:31 AM

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I think you're beat. the 3bet cold call smells of aces or kings, as well as the flop call.

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I'm more worried about QQ than AA/KK. DUCY?

SykoraG · #4 06-05-2007, 03:33 AM

Well given your read that he hasn't gotten out of line I think you should just give up on the turn. I think you would have heard from the NFD if he had AK/D off the flop.

spyderracing · #5 06-05-2007, 03:39 AM

This sure looks like QQ. Check turn and see what he does. If he checks behind I think I check/call a non A/K river.

pdoran10 · #6 06-05-2007, 03:51 AM

im shutting down here always and praying for him to show down 1010.

luckybacon · #7 06-05-2007, 04:13 AM

this looks a lot more like a mp than qq to me. that being said i c/r the turn ai

jumbojacks · #8 06-05-2007, 04:22 AM

check and check. I think it'll get checked through on the turn with most of his range besides maybe AA, sometimes KK, so I doubt a CRAI will work.

How smart about it is he with his vbets? Depending on that, you might be able to call a river bet.

cs3 · #9 06-05-2007, 04:24 AM

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this looks a lot more like a mp than qq to me. that being said i c/r the turn ai

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CO only has a PSB left so i doubt youre getting a chance to ch/r (and highly unlikely he bets turn with worse anyway - if he puts you on missed overs hes checking it down trying to get to showdown cheap)

and i disagree with your above statementfor another reason as well. how can you think he has exactly 99 and TT more often than 88, QQ, KK, AA AND bet the turn with them? (them being 99/TT)

i think getting it in here with JJ is pretty bad. youre either ahead and not getting paid off or more likely behind and getting stacked.

jumbojacks · #10 06-05-2007, 04:30 AM

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I think you're beat. the 3bet cold call smells of aces or kings, as well as the flop call.

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I'm more worried about QQ than AA/KK. DUCY?

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I think a lot of mp will play it the same too, so I don't think can give too much weight on QQ over any other hand.