Do i play this hand bad? what could have i done different?

[Poker Plan]

Should have raised the turn and let villain call down your turn and river bets.

[MrWookie]

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never 3bet the flop, you are all fish....

i probably raise the turn to rep AQ

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Rep AQ? WTF? So he'll fold, what, two pair? I don't think anyone has folded two pair on unpaired, non-4-flush, non-4-straight boards in the history of LHE. If you want to say wait for the turn so we get an extra SB, fine, but representing anything to get him to do anything here is retarded.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

because this turn is scary enough that even with 2pair or a set he will probably not continue to come over the top of our turn raise; if the turn card was unreppable then we would instead wait til the river to raise.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

ok ill explain it better (for others):

when we make a raise that is not a cap we have to consider the 2:1 rule.

the 2:1 rule exists when the following conditions are present,

1. when behind we have 0% equity (as such it really only ever applies directly to the river)
2. vil will ALWAYS 3bet when he is ahead.

if this is the case we win 1 extra bet when ahead, but lose 2 when behind, so therefore must be ahead >66% of the time (metagame ignored)

This T is a perfect card for us to raise on because vil will almost never 3bet when ahead because our play perfectly represents AQ and from vils line (+ weak combo analysis) there is almost no chance he can have AQ.

we should never 3bet the flop because it accomplishes nothing; we get more value from raising on the bigger streets and any fold equity obtained in counterproductive. also, absolute position for the rest of the hand means we can make our choice with the added information of turn + river cards.

[NIX]

Three questions Eskimo:

1) Do you think an unknown at .5/1 would be able to put Hero on AQ and not come over the top with a worse hand than a straight?
2) Do you think Hero isn't ahead 66% of the time from the given action on the flop, especially considering it's BSB?
3) If your plan is to raise a turn scare card or any river card, I guess this this means you're raise/folding?

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

1. yes i do
2. i didnt structure that well:
-the reason we dont 3bet the flop is to wait for the bigger bet streets for added value.
-the reason we raise the turn instead of the river is because have a reppable turn card.
3. the other advantage to raising this turn is we have outs to the nuts so we dont have to fold.

[petsa]

Opinions from noob.
FLOP: Looks ok. I'm not sure top pair is three-bet worthy because villain showed that either there is goods or there is a big bluff. Goods more likely (two pairs).
TURN: Ok. I would not raise because flop was scary.
RIVER: Would not bet, because top pair is probably behind.

[NIX]

Ok, that clears some of it up, but I have more.

First, if you're raising this turn because it presents a hand we can rep, how do you handle a blank turn? If say the 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] comes, you said you'd rather wait and raise the river. Isn't this missing value since the flop contains enough draws that we'd rather get a raise in on the turn as opposed to waiting and raising on the river so that he can fold his missed draws? And if that's the case, aren't we less likely to be ahead 66% of the time on the river as more bets go in since the worst hands in his range don't call the raise or 3bet?

In this situation where we don't have a draw to the nuts, do you fold to a raise on either street?