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05-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
For everyone advocating a turn c/r, isn't there a good chance this gets checked through or that villain folds alot of his range?
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#12
05-19-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
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The re-stealing range vs. a CO raiser that has an ATS% of 40 is 66+,A8s+,A9o+,KJs+,KQo+. You would obviously need more of a hand against a player that steals less and less of a hand if he steals more. You would also need less of a hand against a button steal and even less against a SB steal. [/ QUOTE ] theres tons of good stuff like this in it. I knew i sucked before but I'm halfway through the book and I REALLY suck.
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#13
05-19-2007, 10:36 PM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
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The re-stealing range vs. a CO raiser that has an ATS% of 40 is 66+,A8s+,A9o+,KJs+,KQo+. [/ QUOTE ] sounds about right. keep in mind, my condoning the light 3bet here is based on this being the first orbit to keep them under control later. a good default would be close to that mentioned above. i'm still a bit looser(probably 3betting A7s, 55, KTs and KJo, etc.) versus blatant stealer. hell, probably worse than that if they are really obvious(which was alluded to).
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#14
05-19-2007, 10:40 PM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
Another thing to keep in mind is that stoxtrader's book is about tough shorthanded games. Fullring features a lot more weak-tight play which would reward lighter 3betting.
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#15
05-19-2007, 11:26 PM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
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Another thing to keep in mind is that stoxtrader's book is about tough shorthanded games. Fullring features a lot more weak-tight play which would reward lighter 3betting. [/ QUOTE ] word.
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#16
05-19-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
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For everyone advocating a turn c/r, isn't there a good chance this gets checked through or that villain folds alot of his range? [/ QUOTE ] Less hijack, more answer plz.
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#17
05-20-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
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Another thing to keep in mind is that stoxtrader's book is about tough shorthanded games. Fullring features a lot more weak-tight play which would reward lighter 3betting. [/ QUOTE ] i think its meant for shorthanded games as well as tougher full-ring games.
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#19
05-20-2007, 11:12 AM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
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[ QUOTE ] For everyone advocating a turn c/r, isn't there a good chance this gets checked through or that villain folds alot of his range? [/ QUOTE ] Less hijack, more answer plz. [/ QUOTE ] If you have doubts that he will bet, you should lead. I do not like leading the river with the intention of folding to a raise. I think that Harv is correct and would also prefer c/c.
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#20
05-20-2007, 11:14 AM
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Re: 2/4 PS Why You Don\'t Pick On The New Kid
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Still the point is that most 2/4 and 3/6 TAGs are not going to punish you for 3betting light as much or as well as a 100/200 player would. [/ QUOTE ] Stox bases the appropriate re-steal range on your hand having at least 50% equity against the original stealer's range. Stox points out that these are guidelines and that you should adjust them to game conditions.
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