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Old 04-22-2007, 05:27 PM
Mat Mat is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

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Fold preflop - never in a million years am i folding any 2 cards to a min 3 bet when i've got position

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oops, didn't notice, the call is fine then.
What you say is right, and if we take thant in consideration, maybe you took the best line and then it's a fold river if villian plays real tight.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

I like the flop call. Raising is pretty bad actually imo. I like turn check also vs. villain described. I break down in tears on the river and call because I have two-pair in a reraised pot, but it may be a fold.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

fold preflop, as played i do the same postflop and fold the river
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

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fold preflop

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Living up to your name [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

Preflop is obviously fine. Flop call is okay. Turn check is gross cause more than half the deck is a scare card and you are way ahead of his range since he hardly ever check AK or a set on such a drawy board. Please bet and call the rare all in. River is a call and not very close either. A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is on the board for christ's sake.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

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PA[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is on the board for christ's sake.

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We are not afraid of the flush but AK/QQ+. Since villian looks like a nit I think it's a big part of his range.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

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PA[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is on the board for christ's sake.

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We are not afraid of the flush but AK/QQ+. Since villian looks like a nit I think it's a big part of his range.

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And like I said, I think he bets those hands again on the turn most of the time.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

He will check-shove these hands often on the turn. And a turn check followed by a river shove is very often a missed turn cr.
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Is this a value shove or a bluff?

Yeah i agree with Mat - i'm not afraid of the flush but of him having AK/QQ+.

I had been playing really aggressively at this table without having to show down any hands.

This is why i checked the turn coz i thought he was trying to trap using my aggressive image.

I'm surprised that no1's actually guessed what he had yet :P

Will reveal results and my action when some1 guesses it right :P
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