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Old 04-19-2007, 05:19 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Flop is raise or fold imo

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I almost said that. But then I decided that raising is too much of a spew given the position, the number of villains, and the size of the pot.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:05 PM
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I'm sorry I misread the OP. I didn't see that we raised UTG and that kinda changes things. Calling makes more sense as the hand was played but I would just fold the flop.

If the guy has a legit 3-betting hand then we are in bad shape against his range and we still have to worry about the people behind us, the RIO, relative lack of bailout draws, etc. If he is just goofing around then we should probably at least call and my point was that we should probably raise given the pot size if a call is in fact +EV.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:17 PM
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awesome table. MP2 = moran based on his turnplay alone [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:46 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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SIXTEEN POINT FOUR BETS
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:09 PM
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17.4 when mp3 leads the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:57 PM
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A few callers + reverse implied odds.


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IŽd fold the flop and peel if AJ was suited.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:43 PM
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hmmm ...

flop is so dry ... I don't think calling is so bad - but check raising would be so much hotter (especially since this guy might just be stacking off)

on your hand ...
why on earth are you checking the turn ...
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:33 AM
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What would donking achieve ?
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:15 AM
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I think raising the flop is spewage. Calling is OK, given it's size, but folding wouldn't be terrible since we're likely drawing to <3 outs.

I'd donk the turn, call a raise.
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:17 AM
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What would donking achieve?

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You get value from the others in case MP3 has KK, because he will likely check behind with KK on the turn.
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