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#1
04-19-2007, 01:09 PM
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AJ
Villain was unknow but he was getting short stacked.
Poker Stars Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.25/$0.5 10 players Converter Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 3-bets</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (16.4SB, 5 players) Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls. Is this peel alright ? I thought that iŽd get a few callers + implied odds. I think i have about 2 outs. Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.7BB, 5 players) Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 folds. River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (18.7BB, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: 20.7BB 
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#2
04-19-2007, 01:11 PM
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Re: AJ
given the raggedness of the board i would say c/r the turn is about the absolute worst play possible.
if he doesnt have an ace, he isnt betting the scare card and it gets checked through. if he does have an ace, he is miles ahead of you and likely 3betting you with AQ.
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#3
04-19-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: AJ
Yeah. My idea was that since the pot is big, i should try get rid of as many players as possible and try avoid suck outs. But you made a good point, that the board is pretty ragged, so thereŽs less chance to get sucked out, too.
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#6
04-19-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: AJ
how can you possibly raise or fold this flop?
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#7
04-19-2007, 02:11 PM
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Re: AJ
Are you suggesting a call?
I think given the crowd and our terrible relative position, this flop is a routine fold. We have an over and a weak BD draw, and there might be more action after our call on the flop, since many people just check to the raiser for [censored] and giggles. I like a call least of all, then raise, but I think folding is far and away the best play here.
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#9
04-19-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: AJ
*grunch
Pot is big on flop so I'd peel sometimes. I'd like to have two overs. You have also backdoor little bit open so that helps too. Turn c-r limits the field but when it's 3-bet the situation doesn't look good. I'd probably call this down but I can't think a hand you could win. On a good day I would fold turn. One option would be to lead the turn. That way you would be representing aces and you might still be able to limit the field. Then after the raise just call down. That's probably not the best play but that's how I would so it sometimes. C-r is a strong play but your hand is not. You are so easily dominated.
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#10
04-19-2007, 04:30 PM
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Re: AJ
I fold the flop. I think to give 2 outs here may be ok so you need 22,5 : 1 to with.
Sure with implied odds you'll get it, but the big problem here is still 3 players behind you have you thought about that someone could go for a c/r. Without a c/r it would be close. With a c/r it's a very bad call.
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