650 wsop sat qq with 44 left

[whynot?]

now that i like - something that says youre not going away

[dedor]

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If you aren't calling on this flop fold PF.

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exactly!!!
what board did u expect to see when u raised?
if u dont want to take risk so close to the buble dont raise PF

[Killingbird]

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If you aren't calling on this flop fold PF.

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exactly!!!
what board did u expect to see when u raised?
if u dont want to take risk so close to the buble dont raise PF

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POINT. If you were gonna take a flop, you got the flop you want. If you were gonna fold to a push with a flop like that, then might as well fold preflop.

[Jake M.]

If it was a multi table tourney, I'd probably call and see what happens. But since it is a satelite to the WSOP, I would fold here. Had you committed a larger % of your chips preflop, then you would probably have to call but since you are realtively close to the bubble, I feel like you can still get the ticket with 25k in chips. Had you been reduced to under 20k in chips starting with 29k, you would probably have to make the call. Another thing to consider too is when you see an opponent raising a lot and involved in a lot of hands and then he decides to just to flat call your raise in this paticular hand, to me, something is up and I think you're in trouble.

[Tyler Durden]

I wouldn't love it but I'd call.

Results please.

[dudeoflife]

Ok, so the villain obv doesnt have AA or KK or he would've repopped preflop. I ruled out a set because of the open push. That left JJ and I was 100% sure that's what he was doing figuring I'd have to fold pretty much any hand in my posiiton. If i call, i'm basically guaranteed a seat and I didn't take the timebank for this reason because I didn't want to talk myself out of a call. So i called and he shows 33 for the set....gg me. Looking back on it, I'm positive this has to be a fold played as is. Villain took maybe 5 seconds to call my bet from the bb. If he had JJ or for the sake of argument KK or AA he would've definitely taken longer to think about it. He stalled on the flop for maybe 15 seconds and pushed. In my mind the only hand he pushes with is a set here. There's just no way he's going to risk half his stack when he knows there's probably a 80 % chance i have a high pair in this situation and based on that flop be very tempted to call. Preflop I think open push is the right play. If he calls and misses though those extra chips would go a long way to increasing my chances of a seat. I wasn't sure how the tourney would play when it got down to this close and when I would be able to coast by getting blinds every 2 orbits or so would be good enough. If I fold and im down to 24,000, blinds are still relatively small enough where I think I can outplay the rest of the players. At the time though, I thought I could win my seat right there and not have to sweat the tournament bubble. Lesson learned.

dudeoflife

[bogey1]

Like others said, that's the flop you want. No point in throwing in so many chips preflop if you're folding that flop.

Also, as said, I think the problem is preflop. Shove. Take the 5-6k in chips when he folds and quite possibly coast from there. If he's got AA or KK, life sucks, but oh well.

[dchz]

dude what hapepend? i wanna know

also how did you get into this qualifier??

[dchz]

dude i'm sorry that it happened,

looking back at it, it was a very close call, and i think he shoved for the same reasons that you had to call

also the more i think of this, i think a shove is just fine PF?

plz tell me how you got into this qualifier and how you got this far deep in the tourney

i am trying to qualify too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[wpr101]

Looks like a call to me.