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Old 04-15-2007, 06:34 PM
Victor Victor is offline
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Default Re: observed stars 200/400

dd, i think prock is saying its a mistake to open 75% of your hands on the button.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:05 AM
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I havenīt played higher than 100/200, but you seriously think people open almost anything on the button in very aggressive games, shouldnīt they play tighter than in less aggressive games with worse players ?

75% of hands, if you take the default in pokerstove, is: 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,83s+,73s+,63s+,5 2s+,43s,A2o+,K2o+,Q2o+,J4o+,T6o+,96o+,86o+,75o+,65 o, you seriously open this wide ?!
Personally I think over 50% on the button is high and probably do like ~45%, also 3betting 50% seems completely suicidal from the sb, since you pretty much just bloat the pot oop with crap hands most of the time. I think sklansky recommended 15% or so for sb defense 3-handed, while alot of people are probably at 20%, while not many good players are above 30%, atleast in the games I used to play.

You are right that the sims doesnīt favor position and initiative like it should though.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: observed stars 200/400

He must think that he will get to take it down fairly often unimproved.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:51 AM
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So I thought maybe I was way wrong on my stats based on the responses so I checked PT for my 3 handed play from last 6 months. In that time I've played a whopping 5000 hands of 3 handed and I am 70/70 from the button. So I was close to right. I am winning 0.13 bb/hand from the button over that time, no clue what a good winrate is there. I am also winning 0.01 bb/hand from SB and BB so maybe its just a hot run, it seems unlikely I'd be positive in both blinds.

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Old 04-16-2007, 07:06 PM
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I do 50% DD so 70 seems slightly outrageous to me. I am also losing in both the blind positions -0.03 and -0.05 sb and bb respectively and trucking +0.19 on the button.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:33 AM
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dd, props for opening 70%+ hands on the button. I don't think its optimal, but thats just awesome (and i mean that with absolutely no sarcasm). FWIW, I open 50-55% but I'll admit I've been trying to cut it down. BTW, I'm curious, how much do you guys' steal ranges open up when its 3 handed vs 6 handed? what about 6 handed vs 10 handed?
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:37 PM
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Someone who understands me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

This is of course not standard play from me, but the 2-4 game on stars is probably the most loose limit game right now. So I think capping with A8o there sometimes is not a disaster.

Btw, hyeroller had QJs.

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hey man, thanks for the response. you seem to be highly respected around here, which is why i was checking you out in the 1st place. hopefully you can start posting here more often - would love to learn from you.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:40 PM
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would very much like to hear from JA Sucker once again. In his video, he says you can usually open 100% from the button 3 handed. i have experimented a little with this, and it seems the blinds catch on quickly (yet i still take down quite a few as well). Definitely would like to hear sucker elaborate on this play, and on exactly when and how it should be adjusted (either b/c there is a maniac in the blinds preventing you from ever stealing, or b/c the blinds adjust).
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:12 PM
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he says you can usually open 100% from the button 3 handed

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Lol, try it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:31 PM
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i would love to hear explanations on why your button range should matter if there are 3, 6, 10 or 22 players at the table.
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