observed stars 200/400

[siegfriedandroy]

After skimming the stars thread, I decided to download the software, and found pokkermon playing 3 handed. Curious about his style, since the consensus in the thread was that he is very good. From the several hands I watched, he seemed (as one would prolly expect) very aggressive, 3 betting liberally from the bb (i.e. 67s). So here is a hand:

YoungGuyy raises otb. hyeroller474 3bets. pokkermon caps. hopefully no one minds me using the names - i dont have any info on these players, so i was hoping some of you might know a little about them. Anyway, pokerrmon won a nice pot, and showed A8o.

Post flop was uninteresting - just curious about the cold cap here, since I would never consider doing this. All I can think of is that bb was 3betting super light, and the button was likely to fold, since 3 handed the button will raise almost anything. Could anyone (preferably w/ knowledge of the other players) elaborate on pokkermon's play, here?

Just wanted to study his play a bit, since he seems to be held in high esteem - does he post here? Also, stars is annoying since the hand history does not reveal mucked hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Peace.

[johnnyrocket]

he is aggro, he puts the pressure on others, others know this and loosen up to try taking advantage of this, he does it so it is hard to read him on other hands where he is really pushing with monsters. Good style, u must be a great player to use this at high stakes.

[kahntrutahn]

Granted, I've not played him much, but capping A8o is generally terrible... even in high stakes 3 handed games. That said, if he did think he could fold the BU, and the SB was a complete 3B monkey+horrible postflop, I could see occasionally making a play like this. This particular parlay almost never happens, but I could see the remote possibility.

[joker122]

how did postflop go?

[DeathDonkey]

Standard for this game as SB is probably 3 betting 50% of his hands or more.

-DeathDonkey

[Victor]

hes clearly just another fish that ran hot and will eventually dump it all back playing like this.

[kahntrutahn]

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Standard for this game as SB is probably 3 betting 50% of his hands or more.

-DeathDonkey

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BU = 60% of hands
SB = 50% of hands


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.846% 31.98% 02.86% 36460 3264.17 { A8o }
Hand 1: 32.124% 30.37% 01.75% 34623 1997.67 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K2o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o }
Hand 2: 33.030% 30.88% 02.15% 35202 2451.17 { 33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }



And I personally don't think the SB 3B 50% of hands, and even so, capping a hand that doesn't play well post-flop is just bad without having some kind of other motivation for capping (BU prone to folding 2 cold 3 handed? not likely)...

I stand by my earlier statements even though if your range is correct we have nearly even hot/cold equity.

[siegfriedandroy]

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Standard for this game as SB is probably 3 betting 50% of his hands or more.

-DeathDonkey

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If button is opening any two, and small blind really was 3betting 50% (dont think he was here, though), what are the worst hands you would cap with? Anything you would just call with?

[DeathDonkey]

Ok couple things. Button is opening more than 60% of his hands here. When I play 3 handed I open like 75% and these 200/400 guys might be damn near 100% as far as I've seen. Also if the button folds the bottom of his range for two more (as I do when the BB is at all sane) then our hot/cold equity goes up a ton, which you didn't account for. Also, these sims just aren't that useful, there are plenty of flops where we will still have ace high and button will be totally unable to continue but this sim doesn't account for playability. I think pokerstove is the most misused tool ever to be honest.

-DeathDonkey

[Victor]

"hen I play 3 handed I open like 75% and these 200/400 guys might be damn near 100% as far as I've seen."

heh, i open 47%. guess im a nit.