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Old 04-11-2007, 03:40 PM
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So you don't think it matters if we just open push ~13 BBs w/ ~ 88-JJ, AQ+?
It would make life a lot easier especially when multitabling. I did notice that river prayer made some 13 BB open pushes...

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im not exactly saying that, but i think if you went ahead and did this you would be giving up minimal ev... stuff your could probably make back for several other reasons... basically i like shoving everything except my huge hands... and if you see that people are catching on... shove your huge hands occassionally too.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: $114: 99 lvl 4

JJ is way to strong to shove here IMO. I don't like shoving AK either because you lose out on a lot of value from weaker aces. I think in practice I probably shove 77-88 only. And yeah, no one ever notices.

As played I probably fold even though I might have called a shove. That is unless I have a read villian is tricky OR a moron or he has something stupid in his stats. Vs. an average $114er this is almost always a higher PP, occasionally AK.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:51 PM
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Pushing or raising to 250 and calling a push are both fine. If there are some high vpip guys behind me I'd most likely push as getting called and playing postflop can be difficult. I like the 250 raise in other cases as it gives you an out if 2 or more guys push behind you.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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JJ is way to strong to shove here IMO. I don't like shoving AK either because you lose out on a lot of value from weaker aces. I think in practice I probably shove 77-88 only. And yeah, no one ever notices.

As played I probably fold even though I might have called a shove. That is unless I have a read villian is tricky OR a moron or he has something stupid in his stats. Vs. an average $114er this is almost always a higher PP, occasionally AK.

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Everytime this is discussed, I realize I subconsciously give way too much credit to opponents.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: $114: 99 lvl 4

Interesting thread though the most I took out of it was that the best posters here have the same problems with mid-games that I do. It doesn't seem like anyone has an 'answer'.
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: $114: 99 lvl 4

I like your raise and now I like a fold.

Ryan
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: $114: 99 lvl 4

Keep in mind I haven't played sngs in a while so most of my 14bb play is in MTTS but readless I would never fold pf here.
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: $114: 99 lvl 4

The raise is good, the call is bad. You're well behind a typical range for villain in that spot and you've still got >10BBs if you fold. I'd open push if I was slightly less, like 11.5 BBs or less, but I like the 250 open.
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: $114: 99 lvl 4

I don't like the raise and call a push line.. I think that negates why we're raising to 2.5xbb in the first place (To still have room to fold and have >10BB's).. Of course read dependent, if there's some 40/30 guy I'm definitely getting the right price against his range.. most opponents I would fold to though
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