High Stakes Poker...Ivey Vs. Booth

[SlowHabit]

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How big could these games be that they make 300/600 NL seem like micro stakes?

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1House/2House NL is pretty standard in private clubs. Duplex straddle and condo antes are common.

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haha.

It never gets old [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[snagglepuss]

5k-10k nlhe on a yacht in the mediterranean with bobby baldwin, guy de liberte, gustov hansen, and phil ivey (absent; playing via robot/teleconferencing). obv.

[xker17x]

when i was in canada brad mentioned playing on a boat near europe and the game was 400-800 nl with a forced 1600 straddle thats pretty [censored] big

[ArmenH]

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when i was in canada brad mentioned playing on a boat near europe and the game was 400-800 nl with a forced 1600 straddle thats pretty [censored] big

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Not as big as the 1arm - 2arm game they play in Costa Rica.

[xker17x]

lol

[LearnedfromTV]

i'm not going to pretend i can analyze whether booth shouldve shoved or ivey shouldve called, but there's something I wanted to point out that some people are missing re the stack depth.

The flop shove is still a huge bet, but the pot was 4 bet to 25bb preflop. So yeah, it's 460bb, but it's the same as 200ish bb in a 3bet pot, except with respect to preflop ranges; booth is probably a little more likely to have AA than in a 3 bet pot, ivey is more likely to have a huge hand having cold 4bet. But some of those factors have to be mitigated by the fact that booth can threebet nearly as wide with 400+ bb in a lot of stacks as he might open raise with 200ish.

[NMcNasty]

This is why I hate live NL cash games. You can play well all day and then get into a super deep ugly spot like this where the decision is equivalent to a weeks worth of grinding.

I would also imagine that its pretty hard to just find another 300k to play with if Phil loses the pot. I mean I know its Phil Ivey but still coming up with that kind of cash before the game ends has to be a pain in the ass.

There was a hand almost exactly like this posted here a few months ago. The hero had KK and I think it was a 98x flop where the villain pushed for about 300 BB. Just about everyone said to fold. I remember even one poster saying that the hero shouldn't have re-raised KK preflop and gotten himself into this spot.

[spino1i]

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This is why I hate live NL cash games. You can play well all day and then get into a super deep ugly spot like this where the decision is equivalent to a weeks worth of grinding.

I would also imagine that its pretty hard to just find another 300k to play with if Phil loses the pot. I mean I know its Phil Ivey but still coming up with that kind of cash before the game ends has to be a pain in the ass.

There was a hand almost exactly like this posted here a few months ago. The hero had KK and I think it was a 98x flop where the villain pushed for about 300 BB. Just about everyone said to fold. I remember even one poster saying that the hero shouldn't have re-raised KK preflop and gotten himself into this spot.

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This is why you dont sit with 300k unless you are prepared to lose it. If Phil wasnt prepared to make big calls like this, perhaps he should have bought in for 100k instead.

[greg nice]

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I remember even one poster saying that the hero shouldn't have re-raised KK preflop and gotten himself into this spot.

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bingo

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lol@people ragging on Phil here. If Booth had AA/set/two pair here, everyone would be on his dick going on and on about how awesome Ivey was.