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Old 03-26-2007, 03:20 PM
bav bav is offline
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

My first thought was that you go a couple bets on the river and then say something like "remember how we've been telling you that you're exposing your cards?" You don't stop raising, but you let him know that he has a lost cause and let him be the one to stop the river raises. But once he spouted the "I'll even show you the ace" line, I lost interest in being nice.
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:21 PM
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This is actually the most interesting live game scenario I've heard in awhile. I was going to say it's a tough one. But the more I think about it, the easier it is to explain away no matter who you talk to about it (and really the only person who can get you in trouble is the floor man, and he will have no trouble at all believing your story.) I'd feel sorry for the guy, but
- he lied and told you he has the ace, game on fellas!
- wtf would think someone would fold to the 8th raise? It's ridiculous.

The more I think about the other replies you've gotten, the more I say "go for it". Even if you feel obliged to explain to the table why you did it (you saw his cards), and even if that makes him stop doing it, this hand alone is probably going to make up for any future money you might lose because he starts protecting his hand.
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Old 03-26-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

After you've gone 8 bets, that is already super-suspicious. You might as well for for all he has left. It will look the same as 8 (after you get 3+ in, you will have to explain yourself) but you get the extra bets.

From an ethical standpoint, it is up to you if he should lose his money for not protecting his cards. At a casino, I would probably go for the jugular since you have not cheated, he has been warned and there are plenty of ppl to take his place when he finally gets up. At a friendly home game, I would probably not go for 20 bets since they might get super pissed and not want to play with me anymore.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

I am suprised that no one has brought up the fact that he is drunk and has an Ace in his hand. It is very possible that he thinks he has the Ac and believes that he is reraising with the nuts.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

If he's so drunk that he can't tell a red card from a black card, then he's destined to lose every dime, anyway. I hate to sound so mercenary about it, but you might as well get that money as the next guy.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

if he tells you he's got the ace, i'd go all the way with it
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

agree with prior posters, you could just bet here, you just used the information presented, nothing wrong.

but if you wanted to finesse it, you could pretend you misread your hand. pretend you thought you had the Ac, or better thought you had a str flush somehow.

later,
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:43 PM
sixsixtie sixsixtie is offline
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

he thinks you're going to fold for an extra bet in minbet ?? take it all
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

i agree with just about everyone else...

i might've said something like, 'you say you have the ace, but i'm gonna keep raising anyway...'

if he kept raising back at me, that's on him for being ridiculous...
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Can i get my whole stack in here w/o looking suspicious?

even if it is slightly unethical (which is arguable) i am doing this just for the story i can tell for the rest of my life. i won't feel bad about it either. the guy is trying to trick us into folding by telling us he has the nut flush. so just raise as many times as possible.
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