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#21
03-25-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: Fire again with QQ\'s in 3r?
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I've played the $3r and the flop call can represent any J, any pair, AK, AQ, any part of the str8 draw and a non-zero percentage of entirely random hands that villain is never folding after pre-flop nomatter what the board or action. [/ QUOTE ] But which hands will he call a turn shove with that we beat? 
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#22
03-25-2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: Fire again with QQ\'s in 3r?
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[ QUOTE ] I've played the $3r and the flop call can represent any J, any pair, AK, AQ, any part of the str8 draw and a non-zero percentage of entirely random hands that villain is never folding after pre-flop nomatter what the board or action. [/ QUOTE ] But which hands will he call a turn shove with that we beat? [/ QUOTE ] Somewhere between 'all' and 'a substantial majority'.
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#23
03-25-2007, 04:40 PM
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Re: Fire again with QQ\'s in 3r?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I've played the $3r and the flop call can represent any J, any pair, AK, AQ, any part of the str8 draw and a non-zero percentage of entirely random hands that villain is never folding after pre-flop nomatter what the board or action. [/ QUOTE ] But which hands will he call a turn shove with that we beat? [/ QUOTE ] Somewhere between 'all' and 'a substantial majority'. [/ QUOTE ] Okay. I give up then.
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#24
03-25-2007, 04:45 PM
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Re: Fire again with QQ\'s in 3r?
maybe im mistaken, but i thought you played low level mtts shermn? If thats the case, you really need to adjust your play based on your opponents - when they mostly suck and think on level one, you don't need to do advanced thinking to outplay them - just betting your hands here will be fine.
Shoving this turn is sooooo standard at most buyins, its not we have 100bb left in a 10bb pot and getting checkraised would suck, WE HAVE A 2/3 POT SIZED BET LEFT WITH AN OVERPAIR VS SOMEONE WHO HASNT SHOWN ANY STRENGTH. Why wouldn't you push...
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#25
03-25-2007, 05:31 PM
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Re: Fire again with QQ\'s in 3r?
Thanks for the help. I can see what sherm is saying and I would like to believe that I could have folded after the river card. But since it's a $3r I guess I am going broke either way.
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#26
03-25-2007, 05:36 PM
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Re: Fire again with QQ\'s in 3r?
I do. I guess I just don't know have a good feel for the quality of play in the 3r.
In the first 4 levels of a 4/180 I would also shove the turn. Later on, (usually where the play quality is slightly better) I might consider checking behind. As I said, I give up. Shoving is probably fine. Hijack: Sweating you in the million BTW. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] GL.
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#27
03-25-2007, 05:57 PM
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Re: Fire again with QQ\'s in 3r?
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I do. I guess I just don't know have a good feel for the quality of play in the 3r. In the first 4 levels of a 4/180 I would also shove the turn. Later on, (usually where the play quality is slightly better) I might consider checking behind. As I said, I give up. Shoving is probably fine. Hijack: Sweating you in the million BTW. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] GL. [/ QUOTE ] I would shove the turn in pretty much all online tournaments i play, we aren't deep enough. And i run soooo bad at coinflips, the mil is dying [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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