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Old 02-14-2007, 11:25 AM
Grifter Grifter is offline
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Default Re: 50NL baluga theorem here?

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This guy here bets and then check raises. In general they think it's a sexy trap. They see it on TV and think it's a balla play. That's it. Considerations like growing a pot with a strong hand etc. are not part of their thinking.

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I'm not exactly disagreeing with you here, but you are not giving enough credit to the villian. I mean, a bet then c/r is a very powerful tool against floaters and other aggros. Used wisely this is a line that can slow down an opponent, and make your oop drawing hands more powerful. The threat of a turn c/r will often buy you a free card against TP type hands that don't want to get "Baluga'd" off a showable hand. On a single-hand level, it may not be the optimal line, but on a metagame level, it is much more than a 'sexy trap.'
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: 50NL baluga theorem here?

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Anyone have any insight into why these guys check check raise? I think they usually have big hands, but its just... I dont get it.

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Because the longer they slowplay a big hand, the more they milk you. Standard.

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he didnt slow play. he raised pre.. bet flop...he milks me more by betting turn. Standard for who?
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:43 AM
BoozeHound BoozeHound is offline
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Default Re: 50NL baluga theorem here?

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Anyone have any insight into why these guys check check raise? I think they usually have big hands, but its just... I dont get it.

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Because the longer they slowplay a big hand, the more they milk you. Standard.

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he didnt slow play. he raised pre.. bet flop...he milks me more by betting turn. Standard for who?

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I know that's not what happened in the hand, was replying to the question. I forgot the sarcasm tag, please excuse the oversight.

To answer your question, standard for donkey.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: 50NL baluga theorem here?

sorry, I should have said.. bet check..check raise...thats what I meant
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:07 PM
Antinome Antinome is offline
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Default Re: 50NL baluga theorem here?

Nothing wrong with a stackadonk, it works a lot.

I like to run one early in a session, then revert to pot,pot, push.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:52 PM
Bonesy Bonesy is offline
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Default Re: 50NL baluga theorem here?

My .02.

If we assume that villain has overcards on the turn, then I don't like the idea of giving him infinite odds to catch his 6 outer. I do agree that better hands will call and worse hands will fold but I'm fine with winning a 29BB pot here.

Since villain has a PFR of 21 then the overcard assumption is probably way off and if villain is behind he may be drawing to only 3 outs so then the turn check idea makes much more sense to me.

There are many things to consider i.e., is villain tricky enough to c/r the turn, will he bluff rivers on a miss, will he never bluff rivers on a miss, will he call river bets with weaker pairs etc.

I do agree that the turn check was best vs this opponent and as played I like the fold.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:29 PM
DerrtySlime DerrtySlime is offline
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Default Re: 50NL baluga theorem here?

i love re raising in pos. with a hand like 99.
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