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This guy here bets and then check raises. In general they think it's a sexy trap. They see it on TV and think it's a balla play. That's it. Considerations like growing a pot with a strong hand etc. are not part of their thinking. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not exactly disagreeing with you here, but you are not giving enough credit to the villian. I mean, a bet then c/r is a very powerful tool against floaters and other aggros. Used wisely this is a line that can slow down an opponent, and make your oop drawing hands more powerful. The threat of a turn c/r will often buy you a free card against TP type hands that don't want to get "Baluga'd" off a showable hand. On a single-hand level, it may not be the optimal line, but on a metagame level, it is much more than a 'sexy trap.' |
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[ QUOTE ] Anyone have any insight into why these guys check check raise? I think they usually have big hands, but its just... I dont get it. [/ QUOTE ] Because the longer they slowplay a big hand, the more they milk you. Standard. [/ QUOTE ] he didnt slow play. he raised pre.. bet flop...he milks me more by betting turn. Standard for who? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Anyone have any insight into why these guys check check raise? I think they usually have big hands, but its just... I dont get it. [/ QUOTE ] Because the longer they slowplay a big hand, the more they milk you. Standard. [/ QUOTE ] he didnt slow play. he raised pre.. bet flop...he milks me more by betting turn. Standard for who? [/ QUOTE ] I know that's not what happened in the hand, was replying to the question. I forgot the sarcasm tag, please excuse the oversight. To answer your question, standard for donkey. |
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sorry, I should have said.. bet check..check raise...thats what I meant
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Nothing wrong with a stackadonk, it works a lot.
I like to run one early in a session, then revert to pot,pot, push. |
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My .02.
If we assume that villain has overcards on the turn, then I don't like the idea of giving him infinite odds to catch his 6 outer. I do agree that better hands will call and worse hands will fold but I'm fine with winning a 29BB pot here. Since villain has a PFR of 21 then the overcard assumption is probably way off and if villain is behind he may be drawing to only 3 outs so then the turn check idea makes much more sense to me. There are many things to consider i.e., is villain tricky enough to c/r the turn, will he bluff rivers on a miss, will he never bluff rivers on a miss, will he call river bets with weaker pairs etc. I do agree that the turn check was best vs this opponent and as played I like the fold. |
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i love re raising in pos. with a hand like 99.
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