50NL baluga theorem here?

pokahpaul · #1 02-14-2007, 04:05 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($50)
UTG ($68.90)
MP ($49.25)
Hero ($111.45)
SB ($32)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $2, Hero calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($6.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $4, Hero calls $4, SB folds.

Turn: ($14.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $8, MP raises to $19.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $42

villain was 21/21/3

Genz · #2 02-14-2007, 04:14 AM

No. Baluga theorem is - if I got it correctly - smooth call on the flop, (check)raise (mostly all in) on the turn means while you have been the aggressor throughout the hand: your top pair is no good.

Do you have any reads on villain? Your hand is good for a showdown. An overcard just hit. Why do you bet that turn? Have you been floating people a lot lately at this table?
I just check behind and call a reasonable bet at the river.

RAHZero · #3 02-14-2007, 04:17 AM

Sometimes I'll RR PF, but my standard is to call. I'd usually check behind on the turn, nothing you beat calls and nothing that beats you is folding (well maybe TT). If he checks to you again on the river, then bet.

guess who · #4 02-14-2007, 04:18 AM

I would check behind because I don't want to build a big pot and reevaluate river.

Sir Winalot · #5 02-14-2007, 09:05 AM

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Do you have any reads on villain? Your hand is good for a showdown. An overcard just hit.

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I agree, checkity check and probably call most river bets.

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Why do you bet that turn? Have you been floating people a lot lately at this table?

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I would probably check behind anyway even if I had been floating, because villains usually won't know a float actually is float, and our hand isn't strong enough to stand a turn c/r with the overcard in there.

Genz · #6 02-14-2007, 09:16 AM

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Why do you bet that turn? Have you been floating people a lot lately at this table?

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I would probably check behind anyway even if I had been floating, because villains usually won't know a float actually is float, and our hand isn't strong enough to stand a turn c/r with the overcard in there.

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I meant to say that if op had been floating a lot lately, he shouldn't bet that turn because there is a bigger risk to get check/raised by a somewhat attentive player and we certainly don't want that because we might actually have the best hand.

Lordy · #7 02-14-2007, 09:21 AM

bet flop, C/R turn is generally a very strong line.

I'd check the turn behind too.

DrRock · #8 02-14-2007, 09:32 AM

Anyone have any insight into why these guys check check raise? I think they usually have big hands, but its just... I dont get it.

Genz · #9 02-14-2007, 09:41 AM

This guy here bets and then check raises. In general they think it's a sexy trap. They see it on TV and think it's a balla play. That's it. Considerations like growing a pot with a strong hand etc. are not part of their thinking.

BoozeHound · #10 02-14-2007, 11:19 AM

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Anyone have any insight into why these guys check check raise? I think they usually have big hands, but its just... I dont get it.

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Because the longer they slowplay a big hand, the more they milk you. Standard.