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01-25-2007, 05:39 PM
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Re: CAZ top set on river
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In all honesty, I missed the straight possibility. Although against many in that game I 3bet/fold. --Nate [/ QUOTE ] Putting in 3bets when youre an underdog is not a good idea so If I were you Nate I would stop this habit. 
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#22
01-25-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: CAZ top set on river
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Theres nothing to think about here. The pot's too big to fold and 3betting would be major spewage so just call and hope for the best. [/ QUOTE ] 1: hero is getting 16:2 - which is 8:1 immediate odds without closing the action. In the best case scenario the hero will get 9:1 with implied odds, possibly 1 bet more 2: The hero is good here around 5% of the time at best. The hero needs to win 12% of the time for calling to be positive EV if you apply Bayes Therm. In my view this is a CLEAR fold. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Wow, TT you messed this one up. First of all, he's getting 17:1 (and he IS closing the action). Secondly, it's an EASY call. I wouldn't 3-bet because of the two draws that made it (both a straight and flush, making a river raise less likely to be just a set/2-pair), but I wouldn't fold either. Folding here is pretty horrible, but thinking it's "clear" is even worse. [/ QUOTE ] Wow I really screwed this up. I read it as hero is third to act with a better and a raiser, forcing the hero to cold call two (dyslexia time!). Absolutely I am calling this! TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If I were facing a bet and a raise on this board, I would say "[censored] that" and complain, and whine, then eventually fold and hate it, but knowing it's right. For the record, I don't think you are retarded [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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#23
01-25-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: CAZ top set on river
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Theres nothing to think about here. The pot's too big to fold and 3betting would be major spewage so just call and hope for the best. [/ QUOTE ] 1: hero is getting 16:2 - which is 8:1 immediate odds without closing the action. In the best case scenario the hero will get 9:1 with implied odds, possibly 1 bet more 2: The hero is good here around 5% of the time at best. The hero needs to win 12% of the time for calling to be positive EV if you apply Bayes Therm. In my view this is a CLEAR fold. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Wow, TT you messed this one up. First of all, he's getting 17:1 (and he IS closing the action). Secondly, it's an EASY call. I wouldn't 3-bet because of the two draws that made it (both a straight and flush, making a river raise less likely to be just a set/2-pair), but I wouldn't fold either. Folding here is pretty horrible, but thinking it's "clear" is even worse. [/ QUOTE ] Wow I really screwed this up. I read it as hero is third to act with a better and a raiser, forcing the hero to cold call two (dyslexia time!). Absolutely I am calling this! TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If I were facing a bet and a raise on this board, I would say "[censored] that" and complain, and whine, then eventually fold and hate it, but knowing it's right. For the record, I don't think you are retarded [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Just dyslexic [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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