How Slim an Overlay Will U Go Heads Up? - Page 2

Cornell Fiji · #11 01-10-2007, 02:23 AM

First hand is a call with 23o.

Your second call is so unbelievably bad that I will simply let others elaborate.

JNash · #12 01-10-2007, 02:33 AM

At that stack size for SB, it is game-theoretically correct for him to push his top 90% and for you to call with your your top 90% -- which 65s definitely is.
Call is definitely, positively correct.

JNash · #13 01-10-2007, 02:40 AM

The second play is just as obviously a fold as the first one was an obvious call.

wrschultz · #14 01-10-2007, 03:06 AM

The second hand is just terrible, but the first one s totally standard.

JoseGonzlez · #15 01-10-2007, 04:50 AM

this is never good.

if the UTG is desperate he might turn over K6.

if he a small but not desperate stack he has to have a real hand (at least he should have some semblance of one - so then CO has a real hand.

under a best case scenario you are getting the right odds like AK AQ but its a bad assumption.

Kojak1984 · #16 01-10-2007, 06:36 AM

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If neither of them have a pair and both of them have an ace and their other card is different, but higher than 6, I win 36% of the time.

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OK, so if you knew that this is exactly what you were up against, you can maybe make that call. But you plain don't.
A UTG all-in followed by another all-in from two stacks that, while short, are not crippled, COULD be two Ace-x hands, but could also be two PP, or one of each.

In short, you can't calculate your odds based on best case scenarios.