Dealer's Choice

[KingGeorgeC]

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FOLLOW THE QUEEN - 7 card game. While it can be played in 7 stud format, 90% of the time it's dealt as "No Peek". What this means is you get all 7 of your cards FACE DOWN. Left of dealer goes first. He flips a card and decides wether to check or bet. The next person must then beat that person's board. I.E. If first person flips an Ace, the next person must keep flipping cards until they can beat Ace high. Once that happens he then checks or bets. We have also implemented a Match Pot Rule if you look at your cards. This is evil. I almost forgot! The most important part! If a Queen is flipped up the very next card is wild. If another Queen is flipped up later in the hand, the next card flipped becomes wild and the original wildcard returns to normal value.

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I need some more details on the 7 card no peak form....

How does the betting work. Antes optional?

After the first person flips, if he bets does the next person need to call before they can start flipping?

What do you mean "match the pot if they look at their cards" do you mean after they fold or before they play?

george

[Lottery Larry]

I can answer most of these- we used to play no peek baseball in my monthly wild card group.

"How does the betting work. Antes optional?"
Antes are NEVER optional in ANY home wild card game. It's a national rule that a rediculass amount of money needs to be in the pot before the hand starts, to justify playing some of the crazy games that are played.

"After the first person flips, if he bets does the next person need to call before they can start flipping?"

EVERYONE needs to call before the next person starts flipping- it's poker. You can fold if you choose.

"What do you mean "match the pot if they look at their cards" do you mean after they fold or before they play?"

During play, I'm guessing. A penalty for cheating, accidently or not. Part of the game's "charm" is that you can fold, peek and flip out when you find out you had the one-outer after all.

[Lottery Larry]

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FOLLOW THE QUEEN - 7 card game. While it can be played in 7 stud format, 90% of the time it's dealt as "No Peek". The next person must then beat that person's board. I.E. If first person flips an Ace, the next person must keep flipping cards until they can beat Ace high.

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We played a version of this called Midnight Baseball. You could have more than 7 cards in your pile.

I'm assuming that a single Ace showing is beaten by the next person's Ace-deuce? Or do you need to draw pair or better?

[DiggerDog]

Reading about some of these wild card games reminds me of the regular poker game I used to be a part of in college. We played "Nickle, Dime, Quarter" stakes and, at that time and for most of us, those were all the stakes we could handle.

We played some of the most outrageous wild card games too. We played "Black Mariah", a 7-stud game that was re-dealt including re-antes if the Queen of Spades came face up, "Follow The Queen", "Baseball" variations like "Midnight" which was no-peek, "Strike Out" which meant that if a 3 came face up the player holding that card had to fold without recourse (a totally screwed way to play but fun when it happened to someone else) but the Granddaddy of all the wild card games was what we knew as "Whores & Fours".

In this 7-stud game, Queens, Fours, One-Eyed Jacks (hearts and spades) & The Man With The Axe (King of Diamonds) were all wild. Yeah, 11 wild cards. If you had anything less than a full house you were just donating your money to the pot. It was most likely that 4 of a kind, a straight flush or 5 of a kind would end up winning. Oh, and on top of all those wild cards was another rule: Any player who had a natural pair of Sevens won, no matter what. Nothing was better than when your buddy just revealed his 5 Aces and you showed down your measly pair of Sevens and raked a monster pot.

Good Times!!!

[Al Mirpuri]

This is five stud except that all upcards from third street on are placed in the middle of the table (one card per active player) and the player with the worst board showing chooses one of the upcards and adds it to his board and then the next worst board showing player does likewise and so on until all the cards are taken. After the upcards have been added whowever is high bets.

For example;

the first down and first upcard being dealt as normal,
Me: (A)2
Herbert Yardley: (?)7
Albert Morehead: (?)K
Norman Zadeh: (?)Q

just the four of us after the betting on second, the upcards for third are dealt in the middle:

A, K, 7, 2

I choose the A, which gives away i have an A face down and not a 2. Yardley chooses the 7, forcing Zadeh to choose K and Morehead takes the 2.

There is a round of betting, leaving just two:
Me(A)2A
Yardley (?)77

the upcards are now dealt to the middle:

7, K

I am worst hand showing and take the 7 obviously, Yardley has the K but he passed up one before so it won't help him.

I bet, he calls:

Me (A)2A7
Yardley: (?)77K

the last two upcards are:
7, K

I take the 7, and Yardley takes the K.

I bet confidently and Yardley calls for size of pot.

[Agent Zero]

I don't much care for bizarre, luck-based games, so my group plays:

No Limit Hold 'Em
No Limit Five-card Draw (antes, with a bug)
No Limit Ace-to-Five Single-Draw Lowball (single blind)
Seven-card Stud High (limits about 3x the blinds of the NL games)

I'm also hoping to introduce Omaha High and Seven-card Razz into the mix, but we'll see.

[skitzofranik]

In our home game we play 25c/50c blinds and the mix is:

No Limit Hold'em
Pot Limit/No Limit Omaha
Pot Limit/No Limit Omaha 8/b
Limit Stud (every once in a while)
5 card draw (every once in awhile)

and then once the night winds down and people are stuck a few hundo we get into the more clasic casino table games:

Chinese Poker
Pai Gow
BlackJack
Hi Card

And in addition to all this there are random prop/sidebets to go along

[YES WE ARE A BUNCH OF DEGENERATES! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]]

[SplawnDarts]

My homegame has a "no wildcards" rule, and mostly seems to focus on the rarer casino games. The current rotation is limit stud8, NL Kansas City lowball, PLO and sometimes limit 7-stud or razz or Jacks or better. We never do holdem because the people who don't play outside that game (rightly) believe the more serious players have a huge edge there.

[cathompson]

Okay, after reading all the games here, I am compelled to add one that I haven't seen posted yet (as far as I know). I try to discourage wild card games, and when somone in our group does call Follow The Queen I usually fold pretty quickly. For me, I want a game to have certain characteristics. One of those is the ability to bluff, which you cannot do in something like No Peek.

Having said all that, a friend of ours introduced a game back when we started having poker games a couple of years ago. It is called Challenge, and I'll do my best to explain it here:

Everyone takes one chip (whatever unit you decide) and places it in front of them. The dealer then deals each player 2 cards. These two cards will be played as low (ace will be low). It starts with the player to the left of the dealer. He/she decides if they think they have the best (lowest) hand. If so he places the cards out to indicate he will take on anyone who wishes to challenge him (or if he doesn't believe he has a good hand he can simply pass). Continuing to the left each person decides to except the challenge or pass until it comes back around to him. If no one excepts the challenge, he puts out a marker (different colored chip perhaps). If he is challenged, then he exchanges cards (discretely)on a one on one basis with each challenger. The loser of the challenge pays the winner the total of the chips on the table, meaning that if 4 players each put out a quarter in front of them the winner would be paid 1$ for that challenge. If 2 people challenge him and he beats them both, he collects a dollar from each one of them. It is not as difficult as it sounds due to the fact that often you will have people pass on a whole round. Which means you then...

Deal a third card to each player. This round is three card high. Same series of events ensues and then a fourth card is dealt. This is 4 card low. Then a final card is dealt, this is 5 card high. Each card is followed by a round of challenges or passes. The game ends when someone gains 3 markers, and they then scoop the antes from each player. If no one has three markers by the end of 5 card high, another unit is placed by the players in front of them (like another quarter) and now the cost of the challenge is 2$.

So you can see that as the rounds increase it becomes more and more expensive to challenge someone which makes bluffing a strong possibilty.

You could have Ace - 2 on your first two cards (the nuts), and then score another ace for a big pair on 3 card high.
And to clarify, ace is low in all low rounds, and high in all high rounds.
And by the way...at the beginning of each round, the action begins with the person to left of the person who acted first previously. A round being from 2 card low to 3 card high for example.

This game has become a staple at our dealer choice rounds. We then break the game and rechip for a NL HE tourney to end the night.

Let me know if you have any questions, it sounds really detailed, but it really is a good game with lots of action and no wild cards.



See ya!

[skitzofranik]

^^^ sounds pretty much like a more complicated version of guts