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Old 12-26-2006, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

I do think the river bet is a little large as it is the bad "less than top pair" hands that I want the value from which a half pot gets whilst OPs larger bet usually folds out. The important thing for me when making the 1/2 bets is that you must have the disipline to fold to a raise, even a mini-raise.
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Old 12-26-2006, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

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No. Your bluffing. Check/fold.

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Edit: read whole thread, Jay killed it.

Except I dont like betting turn either.
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Old 12-26-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

How is the flop action? Seems funky to me, think we should bet/raise somewhere?
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

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FE - River is a bluff or for value?

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obv for value.

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Lol xpert.

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I didn't say it was good. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I'd either bet 1/2 pot or check/fold here. But it's terrible to try to get a worst J or 9 to fold.
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

W/ no reads I fold preflop, turn and river.
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

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No reads or history.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed)

BB ($69.85)
UTG ($93.20)
MP ($90.39)
CO ($125.55)
Button ($92.44)
Hero ($164.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>

Flop: ($5.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, MP calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($8.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $5.

River: ($18.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>

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Don't really like this line. Blocking bet would be fine so like $10.

Or you can just check/re-evaluate.
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

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No. Your bluffing. Check/fold.

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Edit: read whole thread, Jay killed it.

Except I dont like betting turn either.

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Killed it meaning pwned it or my advice sucks?
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

Jay if you said you would call an $8 bet why would you not bet that yourself and fold to any raise? This may be a thin value bet but have bet a lot thinner than this in these spots and they are easily +EV.
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

Preflop, meh.

Om flop after he minbets for 1/8 pot I'm raising for sure. I'd lead the turn as played. And this river bet is too large assuming it's for value.

I kinda like a river c/r better unless he is a total monkey station.
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

River check/raise = Eh Oh El
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