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Old 12-26-2006, 09:05 AM
FoldEqu1ty FoldEqu1ty is offline
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Default Is this what good players do on the river?

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed)

BB ($69.85)
UTG ($93.20)
MP ($90.39)
CO ($125.55)
Button ($92.44)
Hero ($164.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>

Flop: ($5.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, MP calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($8.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $5.

River: ($18.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

id fold preflop. QJo is teh suck OOP.
river bet is goot. i like
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:07 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

No. Your bluffing. Check/fold.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

I'd fold preflop

and bet out or raise the flop

river is only good if he calls with a worse jack cos he isnt folding a better one in that small pot
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

Lol, what worse jack will he call with? J7-?
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

I interpreted OP as asking whether this was a good spot to bluff the river. (I don't think it is, tho.)
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

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Lol, what worse jack will he call with? J7-?

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He did minraise UTG, so he's probably a Donkey
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

FE - River is a bluff or for value?
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

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FE - River is a bluff or for value?

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Well both tbh. I'm not sure how big a donkey he is, but from his actions so far I'll assume he's bad enough that I'll call ~2/3 pot river bet with my TPGK. If I'm calling a bet I may as well fire a bet, because if he's not that big a donkey he'll fold higher Jx a lot of the time, and I win the same amount if he has nothing as he'd check behind on this board with say busted FD I'm fairly certain..

If he raises I know I'm beat 99% of the time.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Is this what good players do on the river?

exactly so there is no value here its not like players like this are folding AJ for $14
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