AK Deepstacked. Reraised pot. Trouble? - Page 4

Alex Jacob · #31 12-23-2006, 06:36 AM

rel - fold before the flop, but well played after that, which is to say what else can you do?

creedofhubris · #32 12-24-2006, 05:33 AM

ok i read the results...

I think that your play before the river is fine, given your deepish stacks (can't reraise allin) and that it's 6-max (can't fold to a reraise). Flop and turn are routine given those stacks and his apparent competence.

on the river there's only one realistic hand that beats you, aa. it's criminal for him to check the turn deepstacked with a stronger hand, especially since you've shown the ability to checkraise allin.

that said, he seems like a nit so aa seems like a large part of his range.

before I decided that he would have to bet anything other than aa on the turn, I felt like this was a fold, now I agree with the results to callcallcall

Ansky · #33 12-24-2006, 05:41 AM

creed,

"on the river there's only one realistic hand that beats you, aa. it's criminal for him to check the turn deepstacked with a stronger hand, especially since you've shown the ability to checkraise allin."

I assume you mean, it is criminal for him to check a hand better than AA on the turn, and not, it is criminal for him to check a hand better than AK on the turn, right?

creedofhubris · #34 12-24-2006, 06:08 AM

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creed,

"on the river there's only one realistic hand that beats you, aa. it's criminal for him to check the turn deepstacked with a stronger hand, especially since you've shown the ability to checkraise allin."

I assume you mean, it is criminal for him to check a hand better than AA on the turn, and not, it is criminal for him to check a hand better than AK on the turn, right?

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You got it. AK and AA are entirely consistent with villain's play.

In fact, assuming opponent's competent and tight, I think his range by the river can be mostly narrowed down to {AA, AK, air}

Ansky · #35 12-24-2006, 06:17 AM

yeah

fwf do you not disagree w/ my last post to you in this thread?

krammatrix · #36 12-24-2006, 10:27 AM

Villain played this hand pretty horrible huh?

FoxwoodsFiend · #37 12-24-2006, 10:49 AM

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yeah

fwf do you not disagree w/ my last post to you in this thread?

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i do disagree. i think the hand's tough to play but that laying down AK here preflop is pretty obviously wrong, for the reasons I outlined earlier (I guess we just have different opinions on how often unknonwns get out of line on the button after a reraise) and also for metagame implications (if I'm folding AK here I should probably not be reraising with it oop deepstacked, and then i probably shouldn't be reraising much and that's not how I roll)

FoxwoodsFiend · #38 12-24-2006, 11:00 AM

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Villain played this hand pretty horrible huh?

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definitely: he tried getting me to fold

krammatrix · #39 12-24-2006, 11:00 AM

for the call pf to be profitable, he has to have air a good amount of the time here doesn't he? What did you think his range was pf here?

FoxwoodsFiend · #40 12-24-2006, 11:21 AM

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for the call pf to be profitable, he has to have air a good amount of the time here doesn't he? What did you think his range was pf here?

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I thought his range was something like JJ(least likely)-AA, AK, sometimes any two broadway that I wouldn't classify as air, and a total resteal.