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Old 12-19-2006, 10:39 AM
cartman cartman is offline
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Default Re: KK nasty board

Capping the flop here is a mistake in my opinion. You are behind alot and when you arent there are a thousand turn cards that will make you sick.
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:05 AM
antifish225 antifish225 is offline
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Default Re: KK nasty board

Yuck - I would not cap the flop - against two quasi sane people this is not a good play - with the A on the turn I would check call.....river play is pretty easy either way, if you improve go to town, if you do not improve you need to fold....AF
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:22 AM
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The bottom line is when the action goes raise-3bet here on this board, our hand is not looking too hot unless atleast one of these guys is crazy. That is the main reason I'm not capping here. The fact that calling a 3bet will allow the hero to can some valuable information is just an ancillary benefit to me.

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I think we may very well be ahead on the flop. I think there is a high chance both of the opponents have QJ/JT(s)-type hands. If they do you are ahead and they have less outs to the straight than they think as you have 2 kings - and many of their other outs give you redraws such as a FD. Other possibilities that you are ahead of is KQ,AQ,JJ etc. I would cap flop, bet turn and call down UI if raised again, probably calling one bet on the river. Check/calling turn may be ok as well.
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:24 AM
Dane S Dane S is offline
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The bottom line is when the action goes raise-3bet here on this board, our hand is not looking too hot unless atleast one of these guys is crazy. That is the main reason I'm not capping here. The fact that calling a 3bet will allow the hero to can some valuable information is just an ancillary benefit to me.

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I think we may very well be ahead on the flop. I think there is a high chance both of the opponents have QJ/JT(s)-type hands. If they do you are ahead and they have less outs to the straight than they think as you have 2 kings - and many of their other outs give you redraws such as a FD. Other possibilities that you are ahead of is KQ,AQ,JJ etc. I would cap flop, bet turn and call down UI if raised again.

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This is exactly what was in my mind when I played the hand, but this thread has converted me to an opponent of my flop cap.
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