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Old 11-23-2006, 03:35 PM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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Default Re: Spewing with ace on board?

well it becomes read depenedent. if you have a solid read that villain bets any time checked to, then its a good play, w/o the read I think its -ev.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Spewing with ace on board?

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1. Check flop. Fold to bet.
2. Chech turn. Fold to bet.
3. Bet turn, 3-bet if raised.
4. Bet turn, fold if raised.
5. Bet turn. Bet river.
6. Bet turn. Check-fold river.
7. Bet turn. Check-call river.
...and so on.

Pust. So many possibilities.
But no 1 is not a bad choice.


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What's the point of raising if we're just gonna be check-folding every flop where we don't have the nuts? Are you seriously this weak-tight?
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:07 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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checking the turn also lets villain play correctly, taking a free card when drawing, checking with a worse hand, etc. I'd much rather bet & get raised and decide what to do than offer villain the chance to play good by my poor play.

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Ive always hated that argument wackjob, I dont play with people who play correctly. Thats not how I make money at poker. The reason why I advocate checking and calling this turn is precisely becuz I believe this guy wont play correctly.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Spewing with ace on board?

I play it the same vs an agressive villain.
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Spewing with ace on board?

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1. Check flop. Fold to bet.
2. Chech turn. Fold to bet.
3. Bet turn, 3-bet if raised.
4. Bet turn, fold if raised.
5. Bet turn. Bet river.
6. Bet turn. Check-fold river.
7. Bet turn. Check-call river.
...and so on.

Pust. So many possibilities.
But no 1 is not a bad choice.


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What's the point of raising if we're just gonna be check-folding every flop where we don't have the nuts? Are you seriously this weak-tight?

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You raise co, button call.
What did he call with?

You flop second pair with A on board.
The pot is small.

So you have many different choices when you proceed.
I might play this even with a reraise at all streets if my read say me to do it.

Normaly, a flat call from button preflop indicate power. To give it up right there is not a bad play if your read dont tell you anything else.

If I play weak-tight?
Ask my opponents, you have a bunch of them in this forum.
To be weak-tight are many times the right play.
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:45 AM
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Is he only going to call preflop with an Ace? [Villain is 42/20/2.5] i don't think so.
If he is not, then the Ace might scare him, so BET the flop. He could have ATC.

Edit: OP I like how you played it.
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Spewing with ace on board?

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Hi
This is a 5 handed, 3-6 Absolute game. Villain is 42/20/2.5 after 50 hands

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42/20 guys don't coldcall with powerful hands, they reraise. If his coldcall indicates anything it's that he has a hand like JTs, or a low PP. Also, what kind of a read are you talking about where you would reraise every street in this hand?
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:57 AM
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Is he only going to call preflop with an Ace? [Villain is 42/20/2.5] i don't think so.
If he is not, then the Ace might scare him, so BET the flop. He could have ATC.

Edit: OP I like how you played it.

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Oh, well...no...
But out of position in holdem is a very unpleasant history. Often you will save money to lean against folding.

Usually you have been playing with your opponent some times before so you know more precisely what to do; his impression of you is quite important. If he think you are weak-tight; maybe you have been folding recently to raises and so on. Then he might want to take a shot on you. In that case, check-call him down is a good play. But with out any particular reads, to play this hand weak is not a bad idea.
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:02 AM
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Also, what kind of a read are you talking about where you would reraise every street in this hand?

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That is an easy answer. If I think he have targeted me, then I will punish him. Poker is not a technical game. It is a game of reads, instincts and intuition - especially shorthanded.
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