Crap! - Page 3

DasBusen · #21 11-22-2006, 06:28 PM

I admit that lack of logic is a joke. But poker is dead serious.

mvoss · #22 11-22-2006, 07:06 PM

Assuming that your posts in this threads are serious, you need to widen your range of possible TAG holdings.

DasBusen · #23 11-22-2006, 07:13 PM

When did a TAG-player who play "alright", became a calling station..?

Let's assume that he trebet preflop with 99 and better, but after flop a reasonable good TAG-player will never continue without a better hand than KJ.

milesdyson · #24 11-22-2006, 07:19 PM

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after flop a reasonable good TAG-player will never continue without a better hand than KJ.

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i could win 10bb/100 if this were true

Leader · #25 11-22-2006, 07:21 PM

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Don't laugh..

A TAG player have AA, KK or AK here.
He will of course never call the flop or turn with less.
He might had have QQ-99, but after the flop it's not possible anymore.
So obviously, no meaning to pay him off.

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You are wrong. The guy has a 20% pfr and he's 3-betting an agressive players raise from the BT. He has a range much wider then 99+ and AK. He would very rarely play AA/AK/KK/KQ this way on the flop and turn. Good players aren't folding 77-QQ on this flop. He doesn't have to be a calling station to bet the river here.

DasBusen · #26 11-22-2006, 07:23 PM

That is not a TAG player. That is a loose player.

Leader · #27 11-22-2006, 07:27 PM

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That is not a TAG player. That is a loose player.

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Yeah think? A very large percent of winning players at 5/10+ are at least that loose. This guys stats look very similar to mine for example.

mvoss · #28 11-22-2006, 07:30 PM

This may seem loose to you, but it's not, and if you're playing that tight you'll probably get run over.

OP stated that villain is a 28/20 TAG. This kind of player has a wider range than you assign to him when he 3-bets a TAGs CO open-raise, and he will continue past a flop like this one with a good amount of those hands.

DasBusen · #29 11-22-2006, 07:35 PM

I don't think I said that TAG's are doing particularly well. I do not think I comment at all on the question regarding what style is more or less profitable.

I just say that if a reasonable good TAG-player is with him after c/r the flop, then he is smoked.

mvoss · #30 11-22-2006, 07:37 PM

And people are telling you that simply is not true, your analysis on this hand is dead wrong, but if you don't want to listen... oh well so be it.