Celsius versus Fahrenheit

[Evan]

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What do you call a tilting Evan?
Waterloo

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(12:49:56 AM) CMI: yo
(12:50:04 AM) CMI: What do you call a tilting Evan?
Waterloo

(12:50:05 AM) CMI: i dont get it
(12:50:06 AM) CMI: wtf?
(12:50:11 AM) Evan: really?
(12:50:14 AM) CMI: [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
(12:50:39 AM) CMI: this is where
(12:50:41 AM) CMI: u tell me
(12:51:00 AM) Evan: wait
(12:51:03 AM) Evan: do you honestly not get it?
(12:51:16 AM) CMI: yes
(12:51:18 AM) CMI: i dont [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
(12:51:21 AM) CMI: though, i live
(12:51:23 AM) CMI: in waterloo
(12:51:28 AM) CMI: which is messing me up i think

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This should be the last word about provincial Americans and provincial Canadians.

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And the start of a whole new gripe from Belgium.

[Big Poppa Smurf]

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What do you call a tilting Evan?
Waterloo

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(12:49:56 AM) CMI: yo
(12:50:04 AM) CMI: What do you call a tilting Evan?
Waterloo

(12:50:05 AM) CMI: i dont get it
(12:50:06 AM) CMI: wtf?
(12:50:11 AM) Evan: really?
(12:50:14 AM) CMI: [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
(12:50:39 AM) CMI: this is where
(12:50:41 AM) CMI: u tell me
(12:51:00 AM) Evan: wait
(12:51:03 AM) Evan: do you honestly not get it?
(12:51:16 AM) CMI: yes
(12:51:18 AM) CMI: i dont [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
(12:51:21 AM) CMI: though, i live
(12:51:23 AM) CMI: in waterloo
(12:51:28 AM) CMI: which is messing me up i think

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This should be the last word about provincial Americans and provincial Canadians.

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And the start of a whole new gripe from Belgium.

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this is even funnier because i get the impression CMI is a smart guy

[gusmahler]

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PdPG already pointed out the financial reasons for the US not adopting the metric system

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Anyone care to estimate the current costs per year of the unit conversions that business and government have to conduct in order to interface with entities using metric?

Also: Famous Unit Mixups

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Correct. The change would be hard for us (assuming most of us are adults.) But it would be a piece of cake for younger school children, who will only be taught to think in metric units. Once the initial growing pains are over, everyone will be thinking in metric and there'll be no conversions necessary.

[jstnrgrs]

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All,

if you could magically convert everthing to metric, and assume you could also magically make everyone know metric as well as they know english now, would anyone NOT convert?

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I would convert, but while we are magically changing the way people think, I would also change to a base 30 system, and a 30metric system.

Also, while I would convert, I do think there is some value lost in having everyone used to one system so that no one has to learn unit conversions.

[marchron]

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I flew into Toronto from San Francisco once. It was February. As we were rolling to the gate at Pearson, the pilot got on and told us, "The local temperature is minus 8 degrees." The whole cabin gasped. Then she said, "Hehe. Sorry, that's about 18 degrees Fahrenheit."

In a nutshell, we use Fahrenheit because we can.

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When my family stayed at Niagara Falls, after waking up in our American-side hotel we listened to the radio while we planned what we'd see. The weather forecast went something like "Wow, gonna be a scorcher today, high of 33" and our entire family nearly [censored] ourselves in unison.

You'd think even though it was a Canadian radio station, since they probably had a substantial American audience, they could have given the forecast in both ºC and ºF.

[dynamite]

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Hmm. Measure in celsius, talk in farenheit. And I'm Canadian. I use both systems. Whatever.

It ain't hard. F to C, divide by 1.8 and -32.
It ain't Harvard. C to F, multiply by 1.8 and +32.

Hell, even a monkey could do it. Shame it'd rather play online poker and download lesbian porn.

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If this is indeed the correct way to convert the two systems, then allow me to fix it slightly

It ain't hard. F to C, divide by 1.8 and -32.
It ain't Harvard. C to F, +32 and multiply by 1.8.

Order of operations ftw.

I'm Canadian, I use Fahrenheit in the summer and Celsius in the winter. Border city syndrome or something?

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It ain't hard. F to C, -32 and divide by 1.8.
It ain't Harvard. C to F, multiply by 1.8 and +32.

FYP. you should correct something to the right thing next time.

[five4suited]

I'd just like to add that -40 F equals -40 C.

as far as the metric system, what's better... 9 inches or 9 centimeters?

[FortunaMaximus]

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You'd think even though it was a Canadian radio station, since they probably had a substantial American audience, they could have given the forecast in both ºC and ºF.

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Why would they? Something tells me they're aware of the reactions. FWIW, I lived in Niagara for nearly a year, and ya know what? There are more Americans than Canadians on the tourist strip most of the year. Although you do get the odd Japanese pointing at nothing in particular and nearly taking your head off.

[Victorvdb]

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I was (un)lucky enough to be in high school just around the time we officially switched to metric. I remember having to do Physics questions in both systems. (ergs, foot-pounds, BTU's as well as Joules, Watts, etc)

After 30 years I still relate to weight (mass) and height much better in non-metric units. In fact it's very rare to talk to anyone who tells you their height in cm (even among younger people)

Construction, oil field work, football, curling, etc all mostly use non-metric units), yet any science taught in high schools is 100% metric. Kind of strange.

The one good thing about Fahrenheit is that there is a larger range of temperature values compared to Celsius which alows you to be more precise about how warm/cold it is. A range of 0 to 20C is 32 to 68F so you can be a bit more precise using Fahrenheit if you only use whole numbers.

I think Fahrenheit is so ingrained in N. American culture that it will be a very very long time before it totally disappears.

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I was in junior high when we made the switch. I would say that I like the system for temperature and maybe for driving. Like if you're going 100km/h and you have to go 534km, you know this is 5.34 hours. But, it was never that difficult in Imperial measurement - 60mph and 320 miles = 320 minutes.

The thing that makes Imp hard for me is all the crazy numbers - a mile = 5280', a yard is 3', a foot is twelve inches. It's tough to remember. How many oz in a qt, or qts in a gallon (and is it an English gallon, or American)? How many gallons in a barrel (again English and American have different 'barrels' as well as 'gallons'?)

As for temperature, having lived in the US for a while, I'm kinda like the other poster. I think in C for cold and F for warm. However, I do think C makes a little more sense because of driving and knowing when roads are icy.

I guess I prefer metric in the long run, but I can make do with either, so it's no big deal.

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I didn't know the English had different gallons, but in america, it's 8 fl oz per cup, 2 cups per pint, 2 pints per quart, and 4 quarts per gallon. A quart is just slightly less than a litter. It's really not that hard to remember.

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I know a lot of the US measures, but the volumes one ALWAYS gets me. I know a gallon is 3.6 litres, that's it. I can't seem to remember any of the others.

Don't have any problems with the miles, yards, inches at all, and I can reasonably read Fahrenheit by now.

[Victorvdb]

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Eh, you both came out wrong in explaining how easy it is.

F to C, subtract 32 and divide by 1.8
C to F, multiply by 1.8 and add 32

28C is roughly 82F if you ever need a quick reference.

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FYP

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thanks, I needed that. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I may have totally missed the 73824th level thinking, but I think you showed how hard it is already? Also divide by 1.8 is so easy.