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Old 09-19-2006, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: $114 I don\'t really want to call but think I need to

stack that batch
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:22 PM
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ICM gives me 21% equity for folding, 13.6% for calling and losing, 31.3% for calling and winning.
(13.6+31.3)/2 = 22.45 >> 21

Blimey.

Are the table dynamics and stack positions important enough to make up for this? If I can push into BB next hand, I will have 23.3% equity. So if I think there is an approx 2/3 chance of successfully pushing my next hand, I'm more or less ambivalent between pushing and calling (I'm giving up 1.5% to gain 2.3% x2/3). If I include the chance of another shortie busting before I next hit the blinds ...

I don't think I would make this call without a much deeper stack.

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I guess assuming you win 50% of calls isn't too far off.

That 2/3 chance of pushing seems pretty far off. It doesn't fold around to me in the SB that often when I'm 5 handed.
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:23 PM
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nobody pushes any two into my big blind
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: $114 I don\'t really want to call but think I need to

If he's pushing 100% we're a very slight dog - 49.3:50.7.

If he's pushing 90% we're 47.3:52.7 and it's still nearly +1%.

If the table dynamic was really really unfavourable for me I suppose I might call. But I'd really really hate it and I would think of every excuse possible first. I'd usually call if I had the big stack in this example, but not when I'm so short that losing cripples my chances of recovering.
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: $114 I don\'t really want to call but think I need to

Do you know villain? If it's some random I'd fold. Against a regular solid push bot I call.
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: $114 I don\'t really want to call but think I need to

If you really think he's pushing any 2 then call.

If it's any less, I probably wouldn't.

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Old 09-19-2006, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: $114 I don\'t really want to call but think I need to

I do not know if he is a regular as I just moved up to the $114's but I can say thus far he has been very aggresive and pushing extremely frequently into my sb and in other postitions also.
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:06 PM
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I might tend to fold with that particular read. I don't think you're sure enough to call. Calling and losing here really sucks.

Ryan
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:08 PM
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Wha!?!?! Am I the only one that insta folds here? You have a really nice stack and there's no reason to give it up.
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:09 PM
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Well, I think instafolding is probably bad if he's truly pushing 100%.

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