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Old 09-12-2006, 05:25 AM
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And to induce a bluff. Idk whether my reasoning is good but that's what I would do.

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I'd do this too. Flop min-check-raises are usually something big (usually, not always). I'm not that sure that we are ahead on turn so I'd like to catch my [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on river (or as put, induce a bluff from him). I don't really see how we could be ahead on river but what can we do. We are getting enormous odds. I don't really want to make a giantic pot here on turn because basically I have no clue if I'm ahead or not PLUS I have the chance to river nuts.

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If we don't bet the turn, we can't get it all in on the river with the nuts.

Kit / Testaaaja, what are your VPIP / PFR / Agg numbers?

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Old 09-12-2006, 05:26 AM
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And to induce a bluff. Idk whether my reasoning is good but that's what I would do.

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I'd do this too. Flop min-check-raises are usually something big (usually, not always). I'm not that sure that we are ahead on turn so I'd like to catch my [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on river (or as put, induce a bluff from him). I don't really see how we could be ahead on river but what can we do. We are getting enormous odds. I don't really want to make a giantic pot here on turn because basically I have no clue if I'm ahead or not PLUS I have the chance to river nuts.

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When he checks again on the turn I doubt he has a big hand.
Unless he has played a lot of limit and wants to go for the trifecta [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:37 AM
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If we don't bet the turn, we can't get it all in on the river with the nuts.


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Didn't really think about this hmm. And as ticks said about the turn checking, it makes me suspicious about the power of his hand. It's total carbage or something like a set IMO most of the time. If he has a set there would he stack off to a flush card? If so I'd say that check would be better. If we bet we are going to lose our stack UI too.
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Kit / Testaaaja, what are your VPIP / PFR / Agg numbers?

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17/13/3.85 over 7k hands of NL50. As for per street agg. 10/4.1/2.3 . I'm trying to open up a little but I'm not going to before I get out of this ugly downswing of mine [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (yes some bad play there also).
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:40 AM
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If we don't bet the turn, we can't get it all in on the river with the nuts.


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Didn't really think about this hmm. And as ticks said about the turn checking, it makes me suspicious about the power of his hand. It's total carbage or something like a set IMO most of the time. If he has a set there would he stack off to a flush card? If so I'd say that check would be better. If we bet we are going to lose our stack UI too.
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Kit / Testaaaja, what are your VPIP / PFR / Agg numbers?

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17/13/3.85 over 7k hands of NL50. As for per street agg. 10/4.1/2.3 . I'm trying to open up a little but I'm not going to before I get out of this ugly downswing of mine [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (yes some bad play there also).

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hey testaaja, what is your AIM?

I play about 2x the hands of you, both VPIP and PFR wise but have the same aggression. I think I may get called lighter than you which is a concern I have on this forum due to the differing styles. For instance, maybe they will call me with QJ, but fold KQ to you. This would completely change the situation.

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Old 09-12-2006, 05:56 AM
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Kit / Testaaaja, what are your VPIP / PFR / Agg numbers?

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20/16/4 or so. I admit, if you play 28/20 and villain knows this it may affect the decision.
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:04 AM
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Hand played standard. I'm only checking the turn if I think there is a serious chance of me being bluffed out.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:58 AM
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hey testaaja, what is your AIM?

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Sir, you have a pm.
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Old 09-12-2006, 10:11 AM
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You have to bet the turn for value here. I think this hand was played fine.

On the river he has KQ/JT but wtf can you do?
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Old 09-12-2006, 10:44 AM
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I would have put this guy all-in on the turn. He only has $74 left in a $65 pot.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:24 AM
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I am making the move from limit, and the idea of a plan to get all of an opponents money into the pot is something I am trying to become more comfortable with. This post helps me a lot.

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